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R1cho
25-06-2011, 23:40
I want to learn to weld, most of my life i have self taught meself anything that was worthwhile, so i thought i'd teach myself this aswell but this time instead of starting from scratch i thought i would aska few questions.

1. mig welders, gas or gasless?
2. whats the best thing to practice on?
3. is there anyone local/ish to me that can show/teach me?

4wheel
26-06-2011, 00:23
Good questions ! :thumb2 I used to be able to gas weld quite well but my arc looks like bird sh,, on a good day so could do with a few tips..

solarman216
26-06-2011, 01:30
depends a lot on your welder, buy cheap stuff and you will get cheap welds, you need to spend £250 min on a mig and you need to use argon mix for gas carbon dioxide is rubbish, I have a F size bottle from BOC but only worth it if you do a lot of welding, with the right gas and a good welder it is a piece of piss, just work forward and stir a little, getting the amps and feed rate right are the main things but a little practice soon sorts it out, Rick

Fez_uk
26-06-2011, 10:09
http://www.mig-welding.co.uk

Good forum for tricks,tips and advice.

I started on gasless as some came with my welder, Ok for thicker stuff (over 1-2mm).

I now run gas, Can be a little expensive starting up. I asked my landlord for Co2 but he was not very helpfully. So got a rent free bottle of argon/Co2 mix from my local motor factors.

Many people run pure Co2 with pretty good results.

illy
26-06-2011, 10:24
depends a lot on your welder, buy cheap stuff and you will get cheap welds, you need to spend £250 min on a mig and you need to use argon mix for gas carbon dioxide is rubbish, I have a F size bottle from BOC but only worth it if you do a lot of welding, with the right gas and a good welder it is a piece of piss, just work forward and stir a little, getting the amps and feed rate right are the main things but a little practice soon sorts it out, Rick

That's about right Rick, its a balance between the thickness of metal, the right power setting and speed you move. Thin stuff is harder to weld than thick, so learn on thick and work your way to thin.

illy

dan
26-06-2011, 13:32
1. Gas, always gas - choose between co2 or argon. Argon gives a better weld, but more expensive. Get used to it on CO2 first.

2. 20swg mild steel. It is what cars are made from! Either get a sheet from the motor factors, or try on old steel from a scrap yard - though scrap will be harder to weld.

3. Keep joints clean, and don't be frightened of it and you will be fine.

4. Try a local college, they may do a course for around £80 - be worthwhile, and save doing it the way I did, and costing 6 years of your life!:nenau