stand alone cctv help please

[extreme-4x4]

ok house broke into today dogs left to roam, got them back but as you know ive been run over, stuff knicked / damaged .
police do bugger all , and to be honest cant blame them they are sick of it all too

anyway i need a camera or two, cant leave pc in the house so it cant run to a pc . any ideas please

im poor too :o

[(RIP) PLANK]

Might not be much help, but!

We use a dvd recorder with an 80g (I think) hard drive, this records 4 cameras for a week and then restarts and does it all over again. If you were to get yourself a used van vault or old safe from ebay and mount the recorder in this bolted down in an outhouse or shed then unless they get it out the evidence will remain - food for thought if nothing else :thumb2

[extreme-4x4]

might be of use. more info please

[(RIP) PLANK]

we have cameras from 'Northern tool' black and whit with night vision LED's fr about £15 each and a cheap sequencer (about £30) and the DVD under £100, you would need to plug it into a telly for playback but other than that just leave it locked in a safe place and check it's still running from time to time. As long as the DVD is secure it wouldn't matter what they did to the cameras and TV you would still have the evidence. Ours has helped in 3 prosecutions!

Having said that you could do the same with a PC, and you would need a smaller safe, just get the smallest PC you can and a decent sized safe, though you may need to add some ventilation!

[clivvy]

hmm...wireless IP camera off ebay, £50, but you do need network conenction so that it can email alerts to you (with images)

thats what I do, not perfect, but its a lot less money than a DVR/Camera setup unles syou can find a decent deal for £100??

this is what I use

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FOSCAM-WPA-Wireless-WiFi-Pan-Tilt-IP-Dual-Webcam-Camera-/270611703402?pt=UK_CCTV&hash=item3f01b6e66a

[solarman216]

steer clear of wireless, total rubbish, have a look in Maplins for complete kits, but for something decent expect to pay £300 plus you can get cheaper but when the chips are down and you need the recording, it is not a lot of use if you cannot see the person/object clearly, I use a 250 gb hard drive £60 stores event recording for about a month, with 4 cameras, event recording is image trigger recording, that is if something moves on a particular camera in a defined area then it records for a time set by you, no further movement and it stops, the hard drive is just the storage medium, on top you need the recorder, cameras, and cable, play back/monitor on TV/computer monitor, Rick

[makeitfit]

Colin, could you stash a cheap pc/laptop in the attic somewhere ?:rolleyes:

[extreme-4x4]

Colin, could you stash a cheap pc/laptop in the attic somewhere ?:rolleyes:


i have that cheap balck one you did for me long back when we both had hair would that do the job? what else would i need ???. trouble is i need it quick

[extreme-4x4]

this any good ?

http://www.maplin.co.uk/160gb-dvr-recording-kit-and-2-x-security-cameras-243127?ordercode=B11LZ

[makeitfit]

I guess you'll need the stuff the others have mentioned and maybe an external hard drive. It should work though :thumbs

[solarman216]

I would not want to rely on a lap top to record over any period of time, especially if it is hidden away, I have a dedicated recorder, and have installed several others of different makes, and all have suffered hard drive write errors or other temporary failures, but as they are on show all the time they can seen to be in need of attention, hidden away a hard failure will be unnoticeable, and will be the time when you need the recording that will not be there, Rick

[(RIP) PLANK]

if you hid the recorder and had a cable supplying the picture to your TV on an Aux or Scart, you could check it's status pretty easily :thumb2

[makeitfit]

Ah well Colin, you'll have to go pro :rolleyes:

[briggie]

http://www.argos.co.uk/static/Product/partNumber/7003134/Trail/searchtext%3ECCTV.htm

cheap and cheerfull , you can hide the little box anywhere , but ..... you get what you pay for

[solarman216]

this any good ?

http://www.maplin.co.uk/160gb-dvr-recording-kit-and-2-x-security-cameras-243127?ordercode=B11LZ

yes this will work, but at the cheaper end of the range you may be disappointed with the results, be ware when it says up to 5 mtrs night vision really means 1 mtr if you want any sort of detail, Rick

[dan]

Do it all in one!

NAS HARD DRIVE

1. Lots of storage for your computer.
2. Access all your computers/data/printers etc anywhere in the House
3. Or even abroad...via internet.
4. UP TO 5 CAMERAS VIEWABLE FROM ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD!
5. Lots more besides

Nas drives cost around £150 plus for a 2tb.

[extreme-4x4]

http://www.maplin.co.uk/search?criteria=N09JJ

this any better, but its pushing the budget lots. got any links to this nas thingy magiggggy . but i suspect cameras are on top of the 150 and they are the expensive bit , i guess

[solarman216]

http://www.maplin.co.uk/search?criteria=N09JJ

this any better, but its pushing the budget lots. got any links to this nas thingy magiggggy . but i suspect cameras are on top of the 150 and they are the expensive bit , i guess

This is probably the best for your budget, good cameras and big hard drive, Rick

[kitchenman]

I have the Maplin 4 camera card, this can be programmed to upload recordings to your server if the system is triggered, so it does not matter too much if they nick the system, the mugshots will be on your server, card is around £50 plus whatever you want to spend on camera's. I have 4 most from Aldi £20 each with night vision, they say 5 metres in reality more like 1, but if they are breaking in they will be pretty close
In theory the insurance premiums will be cheaper yeah right

[solarman216]

But I should add that, the best deterrent, is the fact that something resembling a camera is seen, and a notice or two that states cctv with 24 hour recording is in operation, they do not know if it is dummy or not, but will assume it is real unless proven otherwise, Rick

[extreme-4x4]

But I should add that, the best deterrent, is the fact that something resembling a camera is seen, and a notice or two that states cctv with 24 hour recording is in operation, they do not know if it is dummy or not, but will assume it is real unless proven otherwise, Rick

trust me they are dumb enuf to test it . and i would really like to nail these kers once and for all , but in the short term could buy me some time . good advise

[clivvy]

i put stickers up in my windows, visible, but only enough so I can catch them looking. Ive found my wireless IP's to be perfect for me, i.e. someone with no money to spare! If I wanted to, I could even setup a laptop somewhere, anywhere, and have the cameras record all the time, but I agree that a dvr is the better option if you have a few more pennies. The company I work for sell them as well, www.iviewcameras.co.uk not sure if we have any cheap deals though, but generally the cameras are good quality.

[lacroupade]

Colin I assume you've called the police????? So what if they are getting fed up - its what they get paid for.

One cheap option will be a webcam wired to your lappy but of the sort that has a motion detector so it only records when it detects movement. I've had one in the past but chucked it out when i upgraded.

Not tried this but worth a squint...

http://lifehacker.com/5233052/motion-detection-is-an-effective-dead-simple-security-camera-app

[extreme-4x4]

yes reported it , but yes nothing doing not even called out, cant leave laptop as they will just take the lap top too , then im stuffed for me hamster thing and have to get a proper girlfriend then..... and really do i need that kinda shite ?

ill have a brows on ebay see what comes up .

[harlowmaverick]

how about spending all that cash on better locks and re-enforcements on doors and windows.
visible deterants work

[(RIP) PLANK]

good locks is a very good point! :thumb2

[extreme-4x4]

acquired some new locks from work today all sheds secure caravan new locks , . but wont stop my car getting vandalised like last weekend . mind you cameras wont stop it. but it will catch the bastards :thumbs

[dan]

FLeabay have Digital stand-alone CCTV system - similar to a nas, only it won't give your computer any extra power- just does the cameras!

8 cams £199 -£250

4 cams £169- £350

[(RIP) PLANK]

FLeabay have Digital stand-alone CCTV system - similar to a nas, only it won't give your computer any extra power- just does the cameras!

8 cams £199 -£250

4 cams £169- £350

are those prices backwards? :nenau

[R1cho]

are those prices backwards? :nenau

na it'll be one of them the more you buy the cheaper they are things

[harlowmaverick]

Well it sounds like your facked if you do and facked if you don't!

Are you sure that it's not some sort of plan to intimidate you into moving?

It sounds like the only way to stop this is to give up ya job and sit at home all day, just like the bastards that robbed you, fit an alarm with police response when you can afford it may be your only option

[dan]

are those prices backwards? :nenau

Erm.....Yes!:doh

What you have to remember with cameras, is the kids all wear hoodies anyway!

Decent locks and a narky dog help no end - burglars are wimps really!

[extreme-4x4]

my problem is not with kids or hoddies. its my ex and her b/f

[dan]

my problem is not with kids or hoddies. its my ex and her b/f

Are you telling me you got rid of a narky dog?:lol


Ex's can be a pain - I had a real bunny boiler once, took years to get rid of her - In that case, get some cameras and an injunction!

If she is entering without your permission, then she can be arrested - get a basic camera system, or even a cheap concealed system and use that to catch her out.

If you can find them cheap enough, try to get some 10 lever locks (keys look like they are pimpled)

[extreme-4x4]

it will all be dealt with soon, just not soon enuf:D