sallys " operation " ... the pictures

[briggie]

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[briggie]

as you can clearly see the atf is black and burnt ... and it had only been changed a couple of days before :eek:.... im sure rick will explain the other bits

[briggie]

1... gearbox arriving

2...new transfer box ( split from gearbox for easier installation )

3...new gearbox ( i think .... it got a bit hectic )

4...new torque converter and drive plate

5...as above ( i think )

6...dunno , i think its the new gearbox

7...old valve control box split for examination

8...as above

9......as above

10...a gearbox probably lol

11....a gearbox

12...the master at work

13..as above

14...as above

15..some thingies that were fuffed

16.....some more thingies that were fuffed

17....old atf fluid

18....reverse clutch thingie i think

19.....dunno

20...bell housing

[clivvy]

excellent progress pics Pete!

[iain.s]

The clutch looks like A motorbike wet multiplate but with less plates no wonder they can give up my old suzi had A 8 plate & that was only 400cc :eek:

[96terrano]

well at least sally is getting fixed unlike our old maverick wich wasn't so lucky :rose:(

[Terranical]

Brilliant pics Briggie (I'd often wondered what Santa Claus did between Christmases!)

[(RIP) PLANK]

These gearboxes are usually very reliable, I have been off-roading with several members who have owned Mistrals and they are very capable, I wouldn't criticise the cars or gearboxes in general, it's just Pete has has a couple of bad experiences - all behind him now!

But it does look like you need a new tyre mate :augie

[briggie]

These gearboxes are usually very reliable, I have been off-roading with several members who have owned Mistrals and they are very capable, I wouldn't criticise the cars or gearboxes in general, it's just Pete has has a couple of bad experiences - all behind him now!

But it does look like you need a new tyre mate :augie

gonna put the spare on for now , funds are very tight at the mo

[briggie]

rick was a star , and you havent lived untill youve had a meal cooked by maggs :thumb2:clap .....bluddie lovely :thumb2

[iain.s]

Fantastic job in what look difficult working conditions :thumb2

[solarman216]

did not find the real cause of the problem, other than the reverse clutch was burnt and slight metal showing on one plate, I suspect a valve was passing low pressure to this clutch when it should not have been as the clutch would not wear to this extent normally, when I have some time I will go through the valve block in detail and see if I can find it, although it looks a bit chaotic with new gaskets and seals and clutch parts it could be rebuilt, if there was a demand and the bits did not prove to expensive, Petes pics number 20 is the rear G/Box section where the parking pawl is located, Rick

[solarman216]

Fantastic job in what look difficult working conditions :thumb2

you are right, what I would give for a post lift, Rick

[makeitfit]

Here you go Rick have a spy at this :D
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-POST-CAR-LIFT-/250795684802?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3a649673c2

[solarman216]

Here you go Rick have a spy at this :D
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/2-POST-CAR-LIFT-/250795684802?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3a649673c2

Lovely but three phase, I do not have that, but a nice idea should lift a T2 as well as it is rated 2800 kg, will keep an eye on it, see what it goes for, doubtful a single phase motor will handle it, Rick

[briggie]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Car-Lift-Hoist-Ramp-Parts-convert-single-phase-/110513297638?pt=UK_Lifting_Moving_Equipment&hash=item19bb1b18e6

[solarman216]

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Car-Lift-Hoist-Ramp-Parts-convert-single-phase-/110513297638?pt=UK_Lifting_Moving_Equipment&hash=item19bb1b18e6

Thanks Pete, nice idea, but do I really want it? I am supposed to be retired, so I can just potter around here and just do the odd bits for the vets to help supplement the pension, don't think I need a post lift in reality, would just mean more work that I do not want, thanks all for you searching, Rick

[96terrano]

torque converters look strange:augie

[solarman216]

torque converters look strange:augie

Whys that then? Rick

[solarman216]

Well stripped the rest of the box today, and found the real cause of the problem, the shaft that the reverse clutch assembly runs on had wear and had picked up metal wise, this is where the oil under pressure will go to the reverse clutch but as it was well worn but not smooth I guess it suffered oil starvation for some reason, one of the oil ways had a very small aperture and may have blocked but whatever it meant that on selecting reverse most of the pressure was lost through the large gap on the bearing surfaces, I can only guess as to why this happened, but a possibility is the failed drive plate last year that allowed the torque converter to run out of true, perhaps causing some damage, but more likely some debris blocking an oil way, Rick

[clivvy]

Well stripped the rest of the box today, and found the real cause of the problem, the shaft that the reverse clutch assembly runs on had wear and had picked up metal wise, this is where the oil under pressure will go to the reverse clutch but as it was well worn but not smooth I guess it suffered oil starvation for some reason, one of the oil ways had a very small aperture and may have blocked but whatever it meant that on selecting reverse most of the pressure was lost through the large gap on the bearing surfaces, I can only guess as to why this happened, but a possibility is the failed drive plate last year that allowed the torque converter to run out of true, perhaps causing some damage, but more likely some debris blocking an oil way, Rick

you are a genius.:clap

[solarman216]

Thought you may want to see a Pic, you can see the oil hole in the clutch housing on the right and a slot in the spigot on the left item and also the rough wear marks, because of the slack oil pressure would also be able to travel from drilling's out of sight into the revers clutch from the low clutch feed so when the low clutch was engaged the revers clutch would be dragging, Rick

[briggie]

Thought you may want to see a Pic, you can see the oil hole in the clutch housing on the right and a slot in the spigot on the left item and also the rough wear marks, because of the slack oil pressure would also be able to travel from drilling's out of sight into the revers clutch from the low clutch feed so when the low clutch was engaged the revers clutch would be dragging, Rick

thanks for the pic rick mate , there looks to be lots of fine bits of metal there , a bit like filings :eek:

[solarman216]

thanks for the pic rick mate , there looks to be lots of fine bits of metal there , a bit like filings :eek:

The pic is not very clear, and some of what you see is fibers from my rag but suffice to say the slop between the two is bad 20 thou at least so some pretty bad wear occurred here, the spigot is cast iron, the clutch housing hardened steel, need less to say the cast has suffered worst, and really I can only put it down to oil starvation, Rick