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yep , sally broke down today in a hissy fit .... she decided she wasnt going to go backwards .
she drives forward perfectly and goes through the gears smoothly , but will not go backwards.
atf level is perfect , as is condition of it ..
so , sally is at the garage :(, , ross is going to read the manual and see if there is anything he can do ,he suspects it might be electrical/electronic , but isnt sure .
if it isnt .... its a gearbox out jobbie , and is probably the reverse band .
we will see .
im sure you wish sally well during her " illness " , and lets hope its a speedy and painless recovery
extreme-4x4
21-03-2011, 17:59
if its gearbox, i can do you a automatic tdi cheep runs nice works well , just needs a tidy up .... w reg
again its cheep as chips
if its gearbox, i can do you a automatic tdi cheep runs nice works well , just needs a tidy up .... w reg
again its cheep as chips
how cheep ? .... how " untidy " ...... any t+t ? and how quick can you get it to brighouse for me to " test drive it " untill a decision is made on sally ?
i patiently await a pm :naughty
zippy656
21-03-2011, 19:10
oh and ........ pics
hay, thats MY line!
if its gearbox, i can do you a automatic tdi cheep runs nice works well , just needs a tidy up .... w reg
again its cheep as chips
How cheap:thumb2
bloody good job you got Wendy then!
whos ross, which garage are you using?
bloody good job you got Wendy then!
whos ross, which garage are you using?
ross is the mechanic at mytholmroyd motor company , hes going to take a look at the a/t section of the manual and see if there is anything he can do , if not .... well ...... decision time i guess
Well you called your first car Sally, and then you go and introduce another woman called Wendy, of course Sally will play up. :doh
extreme-4x4
21-03-2011, 20:43
its a w reg showing nearly 200 k but runs like a sewing machine
needs
front drop links
screen very cracked (insurance fix potentially free)
tailgate rusty needs replacing
exhaust blowing
its a nice truck mot'd still and taxed
i recon its worth 800 quid. i'll find some pics
ross isnt a auto gearbox expert , he freely admits that , but he says if it is a actuator/external valve etc , then it may be possible for him to fix/find the problem ... if its a internal problem .... then no
(RIP) PLANK
21-03-2011, 20:44
might be worth seeking Rick's opinion on the reverse problem before making any decisions :thumb2
its a w reg showing nearly 200 k but runs like a sewing machine
needs
front drop links
screen very cracked (insurance fix potentially free)
tailgate rusty needs replacing
exhaust blowing
its a nice truck mot'd still and taxed
i recon its worth 800 quid. i'll find some pics
gearbox ok ? :augie
gearbox ok ? :augie
Wow thats a lot of miles on an auto box:eek:
Id certainly be running this by Rick...anyway, didnt you have this issue before?
Wow thats a lot of miles on an auto box:eek:
thats alot of miles
ignore me
ok.....why?:augie
extreme-4x4
21-03-2011, 20:52
gearbox ok ? :augie
paulllllyyyyyy owned it from new, i did the last 20-30 k in it no problems at all. goes like stink. towed trailer with it no problems . it all works mechanicaly as it should
Id certainly be running this by Rick...anyway, didnt you have this issue before?
no clive , gearbox has been changed since then ....last time it wouldnt move in any gear :eek: ... but since its been replaced its been fantastic , untill this morning .
rick/swifty are brilliant with all the work they have done on my truck , i have no doubt at all the work they do is top notch .... i suspect this issue is with the new box tho
lets put it this way clive , if i was confident enough of it making it to ricks from here , it would be down there now for swifty/rick to fix , and any other car i may have that needs fixing , despite the massive distance , full confidence in swifty /rick to fix any vehicle we have :thumb2
there seems to be quite a few solenoids around the auto box .... might not be as difficult as first appears ...... i hope
solarman216
21-03-2011, 22:48
according to the manual, if it pulls in forward but not reverse, then check the fluid, if OK then remove the sump and check the control valve assembly, this is a very complicated multi part valve block, with lots of balls and springs, so may be a bit too big a job for Ross but you have nothing to loose it could just be a bit of swarff stuck under a ball, but as I said on the phone I would give it 1200 revs cold and whack it from drive to reverse several times to try and clear it first, with your foot in the foot brake of course, Rick
solarman216
21-03-2011, 22:51
Well you called your first car Sally, and then you go and introduce another woman called Wendy, of course Sally will play up. :doh
That is a very good point, you see that Pete, Rick
That is a very good point, you see that Pete, Rick
but all cars are female ....
pretty to look at but expensive to maintain,
need a good service occasionally,
and the only way you get anywhere is to put your foot down
according to the manual, if it pulls in forward but not reverse, then check the fluid, if OK then remove the sump and check the control valve assembly, this is a very complicated multi part valve block, with lots of balls and springs, so may be a bit too big a job for Ross but you have nothing to loose it could just be a bit of swarff stuck under a ball, but as I said on the phone I would give it 1200 revs cold and whack it from drive to reverse several times to try and clear it first, with your foot in the foot brake of course, Rick
is it something you and swifty could do ? ..... and will it be safe to drive down there ? , i mean if the gearbox needs stripping down in bits and rebuilding ?
solarman216
22-03-2011, 00:12
I cannot say for sure, but yes it will drive fine forwards so will get down here no problem and then we can look at it, Rick
That is a very good point, you see that Pete, Rick
it does seem a bit of a coinkidink doesnt it..
anyway, id say if you can, drive it down to Ricks. I cant see any reason why you would need reverse if you stick to the motorways etc? although in saying that..if you have to stop off on the way, you may find youself in a position where you have to reverse?
id ask ross, seen as he has the car, to try what Rick suggested with the gears, perhaps he can clear it?
it does seem a bit of a coinkidink doesnt it..
anyway, id say if you can, drive it down to Ricks. I cant see any reason why you would need reverse if you stick to the motorways etc? although in saying that..if you have to stop off on the way, you may find youself in a position where you have to reverse?
id ask ross, seen as he has the car, to try what Rick suggested with the gears, perhaps he can clear it?
good point clive , if im honest , im getting fairly sick of it , but i trust rick and swifty to sort out any problems with it , including if it needs a new gearbox , i really love this car , but there comes a point ..... im sure you understand ....but it may be a case of " the devil you know " ( dont tell sally lol ) ....... im absolutely heartbroken and probably not thinking straight , but im considering not paying the mortgage to raise funds for a replacement vehicle , with sally in px ... dunno yetl , like i said im probably not thinking straight .
it does seem a bit of a coinkidink doesnt it..
anyway, id say if you can, drive it down to Ricks. I cant see any reason why you would need reverse if you stick to the motorways etc? although in saying that..if you have to stop off on the way, you may find youself in a position where you have to reverse?
id ask ross, seen as he has the car, to try what Rick suggested with the gears, perhaps he can clear it?
I remember, long ago, when my father passed his motorcycle test then the only other vehicle he could then drive was a three wheeler, in fact he bought a reliant regal. A condition at the time was that the reverse gear was blanked off, could you believe that. Now some motorbikes have reverse.
So he became very profficient at parking, drive through on car parks etc, don't parallel park, and never get too close to the vehicle in front.
Park on a hill so you can roll back etc.
So you should be able to do a journey without using reverse.
Maybe we all should try it, and see how far we get. :doh
It's more difficult than we think, but with care you should be ok.
2 tonnes is not a weight that one person alone should try to push. :eek:
Good luck,
best regards, Rustic
I remember, long ago, when my father passed his motorcycle test then the only other vehicle he could then drive was a three wheeler, in fact he bought a reliant regal. A condition at the time was that the reverse gear was blanked off, could you believe that. Now some motorbikes have reverse.
So he became very profficient at parking, drive through on car parks etc, don't parallel park, and never get too close to the vehicle in front.
Park on a hill so you can roll back etc.
So you should be able to do a journey without using reverse.
Maybe we all should try it, and see how far we get. :doh
It's more difficult than we think, but with care you should be ok.
2 tonnes is not a weight that one person alone should try to push. :eek:
Good luck,
best regards, Rustic
i can drive without reverse down to ricks , problem is a few things , i cannot make it in one go , im going to have to stop a few times ..another problem is what if its a serious problem with the gearbox and i lose forward drive too ? plus it will be getting on for £150 + for fuel for me to get to ricks , something i cannot afford if it doesnt fix it
as for pushing a car , that is not a option regardless of the cars weight
im truely gutted and like i said im probably not thinking straight
Have you got roadsside recovery,set off then phone them out.Being disabled means either home or to journeys end,but msake sure plenty of fuel in car as they check.
come on Pete, have some confidence, anyway, have they got back to you yet??
come on Pete, have some confidence, anyway, have they got back to you yet??
phone call from ross at the garage ......
they followed ricks advice , and ........it seems to have cured it , they are going to " test it " some more with ricks advice , then change all filters/atf oil etc , and see what happens by tomorrow
phone call from ross at the garage ......
they followed ricks advice , and ........it seems to have cured it , they are going to " test it " some more with ricks advice , then change all filters/atf oil etc , and see what happens by tomorrow
ahhh looking promising my friend!!:bow
well ross hasnt phoned me since ....... what is it they say " no news is good news " ? ........ heres hoping
macabethiel
23-03-2011, 12:07
I would start with checking the mechanical link between the lever and the gearbox. Its all too easy to assume the worse and that the gearbox has failed internally.
I am pretty sure that our auto boxes are the early type that rely mainly on a fluid mechanics and pressure valve system not like the later gearxoxes that have electric solenoids to change gear.
I would start by checking the movement from car gearshift to where it mechanically moves a lever on the gearbox casing. It only needs a circlip to half break or a rod link to become sloppy for it to simply not engage reverse.
well , garage changed all fluids etc , and all seemed well , drove it backwards and forwards a few times ..... woo hoo ....... untill i got home :(..... i went to reverse into my disabled bay ..... nice bleep from the reverse beeper ..... no movement :(..... i had to drive forward about 10 feet , then it went into reverse ....... ive had enough of this ...... anyone wanna buy a mistral ? 12 months mot .... or swap for a diesel auto car ?
macabethiel
24-03-2011, 20:23
Briggie,
Has someone checked the mechanical link ?
Briggie,
Has someone checked the mechanical link ?
er dunno
solarman216
24-03-2011, 21:47
er dunno
Pete if you can find me the link to the Mistral auto box as the one I have I am not sure it is the same, then I can look at the linkage and see if it could be the problem, it is odd that you can drive froward and then it will go into reverse, Rick
Pete if you can find me the link to the Mistral auto box as the one I have I am not sure it is the same, then I can look at the linkage and see if it could be the problem, it is odd that you can drive froward and then it will go into reverse, Rick
just to throw a metaphorical spanner into the mix ..... it wont always go into reverse after driving forward , but when it does , it jerks and has loads of power ... ie not slipping
http://bebrs.pie-dabas.net/Webs/Terrano/R20/at.pdf
solarman216
24-03-2011, 21:55
just to throw a metaphorical spanner into the mix ..... it wont always go into reverse after driving forward , but when it does , it jerks and has loads of power ... ie not slipping
well that pretty much rules out the reverse clutch, so linkage or valve block, get me the link for the box manual Please Pete, Rick
well that pretty much rules out the reverse clutch, so linkage or valve block, get me the link for the box manual Please Pete, Rick
manual transmission ?
http://bebrs.pie-dabas.net/Webs/Terrano/R20/mt.pdf
solarman216
24-03-2011, 22:18
No I meant workshop MANUAL, the first one you sent, dont think it is yours, do you have a SPORT light and an overdrive switch on the gear lever? if not then it is the wrong one, also that one shows band brakes, I think yours has multiplate clutches, Rick
No I meant workshop MANUAL, the first one you sent, dont think it is yours, do you have a SPORT light and an overdrive switch on the gear lever? if not then it is the wrong one, also that one shows band brakes, I think yours has multiplate clutches, Rick
yes i have a overdrive button on the gear selector , my sport light is marked " power " but its the same thing
solarman216
24-03-2011, 22:37
yes i have a overdrive button on the gear selector , my sport light is marked " power " but its the same thing
OK then Pete I will look over the box in the link and see what we get, Rick
OK then Pete I will look over the box in the link and see what we get, Rick
i have a 3 position switch on the dash marked ...... power..... a/t........ economy
solarman216
24-03-2011, 22:58
OK hope you have not had too much to drink, I need you to go out to Sally and run the engine for 5 mins, then turn ign off, wait 5 secs, then set mode switch to auto, then set over drive to on, then move g lever to P, then turn on ign do not start, does sport light come on for 2 secs, Rick
makeitfit
24-03-2011, 23:10
I used to get questions like that in school:thumbs
If Johnny has 6 eggs in a green bag and took 3 hours to fill the bath what time will he get to Paddington? :nenau:lol
OK hope you have not had too much to drink, I need you to go out to Sally and run the engine for 5 mins, then turn ign off, wait 5 secs, then set mode switch to auto, then set over drive to on, then move g lever to P, then turn on ign do not start, does sport light come on for 2 secs, Rick
yes it does :thumb2
(RIP) PLANK
24-03-2011, 23:16
I used to get questions like that in school:thumbs
If Johnny has 6 eggs in a green bag and took 3 hours to fill the bath what time will he get to Paddington? :nenau:lol
half past three :augie
:jesterbg
makeitfit
24-03-2011, 23:21
half past three :augie
:jesterbg
Bloody swat :doh
I had 1530 but thought that was before the train was invented:p
power light comes on for 2 seconds after that rick
(RIP) PLANK
24-03-2011, 23:25
Bloody swat :doh
I had 1530 but thought that was before the train was invented:p
is the answer Henry the eighth? :augie
power light comes on for 2 seconds after that rick
ive spotted the diagnostic procedure in the manual rick :thumb2 , will tell ross tomorrow :thumb2
(RIP) PLANK
24-03-2011, 23:32
ive spotted the diagnostic procedure in the manual rick :thumb2 , will tell ross tomorrow :thumb2
get it sorted mate i'm looking forward to meeting you :thumb2
get it sorted mate i'm looking forward to meeting you :thumb2
you might regret that comment lol :augie:lol
(RIP) PLANK
24-03-2011, 23:44
you might regret that comment lol :augie:lol
we can chat about 3v32 video recorders all night, and swapping bulbs for LED's those were the days :thumb2
we know what a real 'toploader' is :thumb2
betamax
http://www.pdhyman.com/wp-content/uploads/oldimages/betamax.jpg
will sally be ok to drive down there rick ? and does that light coming on help you in anyway ?
we can chat about 3v32 video recorders all night, and swapping bulbs for LED's those were the days :thumb2
we know what a real 'toploader' is :thumb2
should we mention helical scanning ? or is it too late at night ?:augie
Deleted account DD
24-03-2011, 23:51
something about that style takes me back :D
my very first bit of hi fi (the one on the left)
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-pBDtV4L67JU/TVaH2EMHECI/AAAAAAAAMmU/EqrzcX0cEsU/s1600/akai_cass_GXC_36D___CS_33D.jpg
(RIP) PLANK
24-03-2011, 23:53
Pete and I have a mutual history as TV (domestic electronics) engineers for the Thorn EMI empire so we have sen all that lovely old HiFi stuff :thumb2
Pete and I have a mutual history as TV (domestic electronics) engineers for the Thorn EMI empire so we have sen all that lovely old HiFi stuff :thumb2
oi , i actually worked for matsushita electronic corporation lol
well when i say worked that might have been stretching things a bit ..... more like avoiding work and falling asleep in my van lol
(RIP) PLANK
24-03-2011, 23:56
oi , i actually worked for matsushita electronic corporation lol
OK, a bit wrong, but a lot in common :thumb2
OK, a bit wrong, but a lot in common :thumb2
indeed once a electronic service engineer .... always a nutter :augie:lol.... the topic of conversations at pubs etc was always the latest tv/video etc lol
remember the first time you shorted out a final anode ?????? :naughty
(RIP) PLANK
25-03-2011, 00:01
remember the first time you shorted out a final anode ?????? :naughty
i remember my hair standing on end and my tie sticking straight out at 90 degrees from my chest, not funny at the time :augie
solarman216
25-03-2011, 00:02
I think the rest gets far to complicated to do on here, what we have proven is that you have electronic control all by solenoids not direct linkage so electrics is the most likely problem, Rick
I think the rest gets far to complicated to do on here, what we have proven is that you have electronic control all by solenoids not direct linkage so electrics is the most likely problem, Rick
so ...... will sally be safe to drive down there , and can yoose two likely fix it ? :naughty:thumb2
is south african red any good for the party ? :nenau
solarman216
25-03-2011, 00:09
remember the first time you shorted out a final anode ?????? :naughty
I found as a youngster that the final anode wire was the best way to kill earth worms instantly, Rick
solarman216
25-03-2011, 00:10
is south african red any good for the party ? :nenau
Perfect, Rick
I found as a youngster that the final anode wire was the best way to kill earth worms instantly, Rick
:jesterbg
usefull for making things stand up too :naughty
around 50 kv up ya willy works wonders to jump start it lol
solarman216
25-03-2011, 00:11
so ...... will sally be safe to drive down there , and can yoose two likely fix it ? :naughty:thumb2
Yes no problem, you get yourself here, Rick
Yes no problem, you get yourself here, Rick
will either be friday affy , or most likely saturday tea time , will ring when im near , or tune to channel 19 legal fm
hope u get her fixed pete, i'm sure rick will get her sorted for u, have a great weekend wish i could be there
hope u get her fixed pete, i'm sure rick will get her sorted for u, have a great weekend wish i could be there
could pick you up on the way down mate if ya want
Perfect, Rick
just had a look , its called " namaqua " soft fruity red wine
could pick you up on the way down mate if ya want
thanks for the offer but we have hospital appointments for my little angel
solarman216
25-03-2011, 00:23
i remember my hair standing on end and my tie sticking straight out at 90 degrees from my chest, not funny at the time :augie
My old man used to hold the output from an engine coil and put his hand on a person next to him and they would jump up and down and he would calmly ask why, I was subject to this many times, when he retired from the RAE Farnborough he was presented with one of the first digital LED watches it would not run on his wrist take it off it ran perfect, a while ago the horse people next to us installed an electric fence but could not tell if it was working, so I grabbed it and without moving said yes it is, the girl said I cannot believe you just did that, I have regularly taken 240 ac I just twitch, good for the system, Rick
solarman216
25-03-2011, 00:26
Dont forget the CDs Pete Most important, Rick
Dont forget the CDs Pete Most important, Rick
try and pm me a list of your fav songs , or songs you definately want on the cds
regards
pete
solarman216
25-03-2011, 00:32
try and pm me a list of your fav songs , or songs you definately want on the cds
regards
pete
Sorry Pete you are talking a foreign language just good party/dancing stuff, and country and western j cash etc, Rick
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