View Full Version : Upgraded my broadband today...
Had 20Meg Cable until now with Virgin Media, decided to upgrade to 50Meg...
Look at this sh!t....
I now download at 6MB/s lol rock on!!
http://speedtest.net/result/1177466106.png
sweeeet!!! nice upload speed, max will be 2Mb i think at the moment, but im sure I heard they were upping that again later this year??
Yup, well they are bringing out 100 Meg lol
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1178341328.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
Weakling.... lol
better upload than yours :augie:lol
Been on 50meg for a yr now and never really regretted it.:D:D
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1178377454.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
dunno what it all means though lol!
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1178377774.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
But I have better green lanes here and basicly no crime.
zippy656
28-02-2011, 22:24
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1178402919.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
ok, so WHATS it mean then??
lacroupade
28-02-2011, 22:24
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1178377454.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
dunno what it all means though lol!
It actually means feck all. Doing a speed check is the ONLY time you'll see your max download capability as its cutting out nearly all latency and only sending a tiny amount of data from which it extrapolates your 'speed'.
Most web pages max at about 1Mb/s and if you add in interrnet latency, database lookups, throttling and all the other garbage, you'll never get anywhere near the advertised service.
Because the speed test is so blatantly fraudulent the only real way to check the speed of a big download.
For example, I pay for 10Mb and the fastest download speed I can get anywhere (films from various sites) is around 700kb/s with just one download running and nothing else working.
Its a dirty great big con. Sorry.:D
i did mine with this site open,sons ps3 on some mad war game,mrs on her netbook (facebook what else lol) and sons laptop running ebay (hes selling mad war game cheats lol) i know when hes got films downloading it chuggs esp if limewires his choice of the day!
going over to this bt infiniti soon
try this site .... gives a lot more info
http://myspeed.visualware.com/index.php
lacroupade
28-02-2011, 23:02
try this site .... gives a lot more info
http://myspeed.visualware.com/index.php
Does it? :nenau Not being funny but as I said, All it does is send a tiny amount of data to a server that does nothing but 'speed' tests. It doesn't send 100Mb with a 100Mb link for example, just enough (a few dozen Kb if you're lucky) so that it can extrapolate what you could send to that server if all the other restrictions weren't there.
Doesn't escape the fact that Gav will never download anything at 50Mb or anywhere near it.
As Jace says, great if you want more people connected, but in reality a 10Mb service that works to its full capacity would be under-utilised by a single user.
also depends on the contention ratio a lot, and the remote servers upoad ability and load at the time, theres so much to consider, but speed test sites are meant as a guide, and they arent real world. The best real world download I can get is just short of 2Meg (my max) via torrents or Microsoft.
thats what i need is average connexion for every device,ps3,xbox360,wii,3 pcs 3 lappys phones etc some cabled some wireless bloody scary when u think how much a single phone line does!
lacroupade
28-02-2011, 23:09
also depends on the contention ratio a lot, and the remote servers upoad ability and load at the time, theres so much to consider, but speed test sites are meant as a guide, and they arent real world. The best real world download I can get is just short of 2Meg (my max) via torrents or Microsoft.
If this was BarryBoys I'd be requesting a screen cap of even that LOL :thumb2
lacroupade
28-02-2011, 23:13
next time.....
No I believe you.....just tell me what torrents you're downloading you naughty boy :naughty
Thomas-the-Terrano2
28-02-2011, 23:27
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1178477255.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
wow, well thats 50% faster than when i use another test
ie broadband speedchecker, to be fair thats saying 3008 kb/s
and upload of 501 kbs/s which suggests they are equal, perhaps
equally fudged. but nice suprise as whatever last time tried
was about 2Mb/s.
not great but fine for bit of surfing and this district doesnt get
cable.
bt doing fibre optics now,its same price as normal broadband at mo (till evryone jumps on it lol,then bang!)
Ok for those that dont understand connection speeds....
I will say it simply as I am tired lol..
There are 8 bits in a byte which means when calculating your broadband actual download speed you would devide your advertised connection speed by 8..
Example, my 50 meg broadband devided by 8 is 6.25
I get EXACTLY 6.25 MBPS download rate :)
Simples :)
I hope you now understand connections, so for those who say your dont actually get 50 Meg, you do, but due to how actual download speeds are calculated you wont actually download at 50 Meg. To download at an actual 50 Meg would mean you needed a 400 Meg connection ;)
Gav
No I believe you.....just tell me what torrents you're downloading you naughty boy :naughty
well...I dont use anything special TBH, but i regularly get silly fast speeds. I use uTorrent client, and generally btJunkie to source my files....:nenau Of course I always try to download from the high seed files.
Ok for those that dont understand connection speeds....
I will say it simply as I am tired lol..
There are 8 bits in a byte which means when calculating your broadband actual download speed you would devide your advertised connection speed by 8..
Example, my 50 meg broadband devided by 8 is 6.25
I get EXACTLY 6.25 MBPS download rate :)
Simples :)
I hope you now understand connections, so for those who say your dont actually get 50 Meg, you do, but due to how actual download speeds are calculated you wont actually download at 50 Meg. To download at an actual 50 Meg would mean you needed a 400 Meg connection ;)
Gav
exactly Gav, a 50Mbit connection like you have, is capable of downloading at 6.25 MegaBYTES/s. A 20Mbit will equate to 2.5MB and so on...
zippy656
01-03-2011, 09:07
here works speeds..
so a bit faster when at home??
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1179032001.png (http://www.speedtest.net)
yeah thats quick, what is it a leased line or just afast broadband? upload on that is mental, looks like a leased line to me, we have several for our clients and at our main offices...!
zippy656
01-03-2011, 09:40
somthing like 200 pc's all linked to serviers in Manchester, we are down in Devizes
so a bit quicker than at home
ah right, does sound like a leased line then, cant be 100% sure of course but thats what it looks like!
zippy656
01-03-2011, 09:53
im sure it is.. we have more than one line i know that much
lacroupade
01-03-2011, 11:35
exactly Gav, a 50Mbit connection like you have, is capable of downloading at 6.25 MegaBYTES/s. A 20Mbit will equate to 2.5MB and so on...
Well you're both right of course, but its entirely theoretical due to the effects of ISP throttling, server restrictions, general internet latency yadda yadda yadda.
I mean put your hand on your heart and tell me your download speeds don't get seriously whacked from mid-afternoon onwards when the US gets online? Of course they do...bigtime as we all know, so in the real world, even if you do manage to achieve those download rates (which I seriously doubt in most cases unless you're downloading from a fat server with massive pipes and nobody else connected:D) it won't be for long.
I've spent the last 20 years listening to IT techs telling me what things 'should' be doing while I have to explain to the client why it isn't LOL :bow
Well you're both right of course, but its entirely theoretical due to the effects of ISP throttling, server restrictions, general internet latency yadda yadda yadda.
I mean put your hand on your heart and tell me your download speeds don't get seriously whacked from mid-afternoon onwards when the US gets online? Of course they do...bigtime as we all know, so in the real world, even if you do manage to achieve those download rates (which I seriously doubt in most cases unless you're downloading from a fat server with massive pipes and nobody else connected:D) it won't be for long.
I've spent the last 20 years listening to IT techs telling me what things 'should' be doing while I have to explain to the client why it isn't LOL :bow
theres no doubt external factors affect broadband speed, thats why ISP's advertise "up to", its a standard disclaimer! I think the point here is someones happy they have a decent connection, so that when thinsg do get a bit congested, they might fare better than someone with a slower speed line...it woudl be wonderful, if we could easily get a low or no contention ratio connection, but generaly thats reserved for business and wouldnt make THAT much of a difference!
theres no doubt external factors affect broadband speed, thats why ISP's advertise "up to", its a standard disclaimer! I think the point here is someones happy they have a decent connection, so that when thinsg do get a bit congested, they might fare better than someone with a slower speed line...it woudl be wonderful, if we could easily get a low or no contention ratio connection, but generaly thats reserved for business and wouldnt make THAT much of a difference!
All technically true, however, just downloaded something now with the same speed as I did at 6am this morning 6.2mbps.
For the most part, Cable customers tend to get hit less than the unfortunate among you that have to have ADSL :lol
When I was speaking to the Virgin engineer when he installed my new modem/router he actually told me that Virgin are going to be GUARANTEEING 100 Meg with their new 100meg service, and not 1 meg under.
This is what makes cable internet soooooooo much better than ADSL, and dont forget, I work for BT :lol :thumbs
All technically true, however, just downloaded something now with the same speed as I did at 6am this morning 6.2mbps.
For the most part, Cable customers tend to get hit less than the unfortunate among you that have to have ADSL :lol
When I was speaking to the Virgin engineer when he installed my new modem/router he actually told me that Virgin are going to be GUARANTEEING 100 Meg with their new 100meg service, and not 1 meg under.
This is what makes cable internet soooooooo much better than ADSL, and dont forget, I work for BT :lol :thumbs
absolutely, cable is excellent, although didnt I hear BT were fitting soem new cables that were much higher capacity and capable of much higher speeds?? I was talking to a BT friend of mine last year about it...?
anyway, it sounds like you really are on a good connection although im not dissapointed with mine to be fair :thumb2
Yeah BT are having to roll out newer cabling to support their BT Infinity Broadband, still not going to get anywhere near the speeds that Virgin offer, not yet anyway ;)
what ever happend to "fibreway" a fibre optic network laid along canal towpaths?
Deleted account DD
01-03-2011, 20:08
Interesting debate but lmao , reminds me of debates as a kid, the derailleur gears on my bike means it goes faster than the one with sturmey archer...................so many different things to influence.
I just done that test 5 times within a few minutes and got 5 widely differing results so its clear theres a lot more to it :D
best below, worst 5.1
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1179893632.png
Thomas-the-Terrano2
01-03-2011, 23:25
Interesting debate but lmao , reminds me of debates as a kid, the derailleur gears on my bike means it goes faster than the one with sturmey archer...................so many different things to influence.
I just done that test 5 times within a few minutes and got 5 widely differing results so its clear theres a lot more to it :D
best below, worst 5.1
http://www.speedtest.net/result/1179893632.png
yeah starting with kington on hull being 50 miles from teesside ??
http://www.pingtest.net/result/35813040.png (http://www.pingtest.net)
lacroupade
02-03-2011, 00:46
theres no doubt external factors affect broadband speed, thats why ISP's advertise "up to", its a standard disclaimer! I think the point here is someones happy they have a decent connection, so that when thinsg do get a bit congested, they might fare better than someone with a slower speed line...it woudl be wonderful, if we could easily get a low or no contention ratio connection, but generaly thats reserved for business and wouldnt make THAT much of a difference!
:thumbs
The only thing that bugs me about it is the fact that it makes people go out and spend money on superfast BB that they don't need....codded by the ISPs! :doh
:thumbs
The only thing that bugs me about it is the fact that it makes people go out and spend money on superfast BB that they don't need....codded by the ISPs! :doh
yeah, its all business first. ISP's are there to make money, not happy customers lol. imagine though, if they just did what they were supposed to do, and we all got un congested connections for the majority of the time? they'd be struggling for new business thats for sure!
lacroupade
02-03-2011, 10:58
yeah, its all business first. ISP's are there to make money, not happy customers lol. imagine though, if they just did what they were supposed to do, and we all got un congested connections for the majority of the time? they'd be struggling for new business thats for sure!
Yeah but trouble is I don't reckon that would fix it...I've managed some massive contracts for major financial institutions and defence sector in my time and despite being on site early hours or late night, I found their pipes were little faster than what I'd get at home. And as I implied above, I spent a lot of time calming down clients who'd approved expensive upgrades that the tecchies said would result in blistering performance, only to find it reduced application latency, say, by about 5 milliseconds....and these were anoraks who couldn't understand how the average Joe could possible survive at home without a blade server rack and a network linking every room including the karzie and the shed... :doh
I mean imagine what Bat would have to pay out for example if we all wanted a 50Mb connection to his server (wherever its hosted)....probably couldn't do it. And as Gav will probably admit, the ISPs tend to oversell their actual max capacity very significantly on the reasonable sensible assumption that not all their subscribers will be online at the same time doing massive downloads.
IMHO in most cases, unless you have several family users, buying 50Mb is like buying a Ferrari and wondering why it still takes five hours to get up the M6 :lol
Thomas-the-Terrano2
02-03-2011, 11:52
bb speed or mis sell of it wass on beeb breakfast this morning.
feeling was misleading upto speeds, suggestting that a typical
speed, rather like a typical apr from a bank would be fairer.
further it was undefined how many customers could hope to get
the best speed though suggestion was at best 5%, this was
mainly aimed at the adsl market.
to be fair mine is slow compared to some of you, but it is FREE
so i'd have to pay an awful lot more to improve it....
its free from orange because at some point i had enough mobile
contract(s) with them or combine monthly spend to qualify for
free bb.
dont download much, mainly free progs as needed like avg or
open office, then go off and have a cuppa leaving download to
sort itself out, and coming from the era when it took a tape
drive to download a 3K game as long onto the old vic20 its
not that bad really.
lacroupade
02-03-2011, 12:24
Think I'll dust off my Commodore 64 then.... :o
Think I'll dust off my Commodore 64 then.... :o
oh i loved my old 64, I miss that tape drive, and those loading colours and sounds!!
lacroupade
02-03-2011, 14:16
oh i loved my old 64, I miss that tape drive, and those loading colours and sounds!!
I've got the sooper-dooper 3 1/4" drive and a huuuuge box full of games.....did you ever play SWIV?
EDIT: here, enjoy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzD81DjnLl0) ....
I've got the sooper-dooper 3 1/4" drive and a huuuuge box full of games.....did you ever play SWIV?
EDIT: here, enjoy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AzD81DjnLl0) ....
did i ever play swiv lol, i remember reading the magazine reviews and waiting for it to come out!! such a cool game, in fact, i think i have it on an emulator on my phone...
I went form a C64 to an Amiga (had an STe in between) and i just adored the Amiga, it was fantastic, and opened up the world of computer art to me, as I used it to learn DTP and all that jazz, loved it!
i have some emulators now for the c64 and amigas, but im looking to buy a decent A1200 with the 3.1 rom and hopefully an accelerator card. just for soemthing to play with. I did this a few years back, and bought all the kit to network it and it worked well except internet.
lacroupade
02-03-2011, 15:09
did i ever play swiv lol, i remember reading the magazine reviews and waiting for it to come out!! such a cool game, in fact, i think i have it on an emulator on my phone...
I went form a C64 to an Amiga (had an STe in between) and i just adored the Amiga, it was fantastic, and opened up the world of computer art to me, as I used it to learn DTP and all that jazz, loved it!
i have some emulators now for the c64 and amigas, but im looking to buy a decent A1200 with the 3.1 rom and hopefully an accelerator card. just for soemthing to play with. I did this a few years back, and bought all the kit to network it and it worked well except internet.
There were some terrific games around, and clear evidence that its gameplay that counts not frantic graphics....and Paint was just so far ahead of its time.
I believe they did a lot of the early CGI on Babylon 5 on a 1200 too.
Jeez I'm sounding like a bloody anorak now!!:doh
yeah I think you are right, wasnt it Amiga Video Toasters then PC's?? I cant remember what softwar ethey used, but I have it in my head it was Lightwave. I used to do a bit of 3D work, and started off with lightwave and seem to remember researching Babylon 5 at the time.
Amigas were great machines.
harrier atack on amstrad lol!
fibreway network,wonder if its being used still its got manholes on canal by me still????
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/fibreway-opens-new-trade-on-canals-1428006.html
lacroupade
02-03-2011, 20:36
harrier atack on amstrad lol!
fibreway network,wonder if its being used still its got manholes on canal by me still????
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/fibreway-opens-new-trade-on-canals-1428006.html
I bet you've even got a bloody Rabbit phone haven't you...:doh
i hope its not a pink phone :jesterbg
the mrs has a rabbit thingy,dont think its a phone though!
the mrs has a rabbit thingy,dont think its a phone though!
might just be on vibrate so you dont hear it ringing :augie:lol
maybe it is,it seems to make her smile though!
Thomas-the-Terrano2
02-03-2011, 23:16
ah amstrad cpc664s? etc, those keyboards with an integrated cassette
or floppy disc drive, 6128. nearly bought one after my vic20 ran out
upgrade potential, in 1986, then acorn reinvented the bbcb as the
master, 499 for computer, £150 for floppy drive, was too much but had
some inheritance so invested. its still in the loft, mind system clock
expired at 1999 (99) deffo milenium bug.
friend at poly had an amiga, was dogs bits, got various graphic
upgrades. stood him well for career in game design. then ibm pc clones
hit the home market.
Deleted account DD
03-03-2011, 00:35
yeah starting with kington on hull being 50 miles from teesside ??
they send our signal all over.Currently showing as Leeds. Now and then it shows a Boro :lol
http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/2011/03/average-broadband-speed-is-still-less-than-half-advertised-speed/
Thomas-the-Terrano2
09-03-2011, 09:39
http://consumers.ofcom.org.uk/2011/03/average-broadband-speed-is-still-less-than-half-advertised-speed/
that seems to echo (ping lol) what was being said on tv other day.
lacroupade
09-03-2011, 12:07
that seems to echo (ping lol) what was being said on tv other day.
and of course as its only an artificial speed test not an actual working download test its misleading in itself :(
Good Good Virgins in fine on there, normally achieving less than 2meg loss on advertised, about what I get on the 50 meg, had it since the start of this thread now and I have not dropped below 48meg at any time of the day, well impressed.
You will always get well under advertised when using ADSL unfortunately unless your next to the exchange.
CABLE IS THE FUTURE ;)
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