Solar storm

[96terrano]

Don't know if anybody else has one, but there is a solar storm over dumfrise and Galloway where we live. it's all ready taken out half our towns power. Street lights have all blown, the radio in my mums Honda jazz has fried itself think the ecu has to because it idles at 3500 rpm:eek: and our computer, phones and things have burnt out:eek: went outside and there's no wind, rain or anything common. Think it's electromagnetic radiation:confused:

[Fez_uk]

AH its the end of the world!

There was possibilities last week thursday/friday.

[makeitfit]

OOOOH the insurance co shares are about to collapse then :lol

[Fez_uk]

I've got my end of the world telephone ready. :D

http://fez.coldcity.com/pictures/military/100_3591.jpg

[96terrano]

That phone may be needed:lol

[Fez_uk]

http://www.spaceweather.com/archive.php?view=1&day=23&month=02&year=2011

an unexpected solar wind stream hit Earth's magnetic field during the late hours of Feb. 21st. The impact did not spark a strong geomagnetic storm, but auroras appeared around the Arctic Circle anyway

[wildbri]

you need two phones to have a conversation, who you gonna phone?

[96terrano]

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my very dark street. hardly any lights suvived:eek:

[zippy656]

you need two phones to have a conversation, who you gonna phone?


ghost busters!

[Fez_uk]

you need two phones to have a conversation, who you gonna phone?

Whoever else has a HF radio. ;)

Does not need any infrastructure.

[solarman216]

Glad I do not live in Scotland, only wants a big one of those to hit centrally and all this computer stuff we have all come to accept as part of our daily lives will be fried, no bank accounts no store transactions, just total chaos, not a nice thought, Rick

[96terrano]

I've got a Hf antenna that I fond in s skip, works perfectly:D

[zippy656]

Glad I do not live in Scotland, only wants a big one of those to hit centrally and all this computer stuff we have all come to accept as part of our daily lives will be fried, no bank accounts no store transactions, just total chaos, not a nice thought, Rick


i bet the powers that be have it covered!..



hang one... this is the land of " it will never be me"

we are all doomed!:lol

[jace]

would storms emp not fry radio,batterys etc or being miltery is it shielded? phone boxes are suposed to work no matter what civil defence an all that........<iframe title="YouTube video player" width="480" height="390" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/0V3SqxUomwk" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

[Fez_uk]

I don't know the specifics about it but. Its alot less likely to harm a simple radio.

Just think of what electronics are connected from your pc to mine to make the link. Aswell as electricity network etc.

[wildbri]

we are due south of you in Cumbria, I will let you know if it reaches us. Oh......... if it blows up the computer I wont be able to tell you!!! good bye everyone, regards bri

[Fez_uk]

Had a quick read up on it, seems its could cause electric currents to surge along power lines etc.

[zippy656]

Had a quick read up on it, seems its could cause electric currents to surge along power lines etc.


best unplug every thing then Bri

[solarman216]

I don't know the specifics about it but. Its alot less likely to harm a simple radio.

Just think of what electronics are connected from your pc to mine to make the link. Aswell as electricity network etc.

You are only safe with an old valve jobbie, transistors and there derivatives will fry even if shielded, Briggie is the best guy to answer this in specific terms, Rick

[Fez_uk]

so the military are buggered then too?

It will be alot less likely to damage a HF radio, especially when not plugged into anything.

http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/NOAAscales/

[96terrano]

Computer has finally poped won't turn back on :banghead

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

Phone boxes Jace, what are they?

is that what we used before mobiles dad?

might survive radiation, wont survive average
asbo yoof.

gawd state of some the boxes think i'd sooner
send a letter.

[solarman216]

Computer has finally poped won't turn back on :banghead

so where did this post come from? Rick

[jace]

i read somewhere phone boxes will work in event of a crisis,mobile networks will jam with gossip etc of course there are now dedicated mobile links for emergency services that may have superced this phone box theoery remember dolphin it went to allow police to move to digital semi secure handsets!

[Deleted account DD]

i read somewhere phone boxes will work in event of a crisis,mobile networks will jam with gossip etc of course there are now dedicated mobile links for emergency services that may have superced this phone box theoery remember dolphin it went to allow police to move to digital semi secure handsets!

The police radio net is encrypted and separate from other traffic, has to be :thumb2

Theres no dedicated mobile networks or links for emergency services but the normal network can be closed down in various stages and only enabled users allowed to access :D they nearly got as far as using it in London during the 7/7 bombings. Dont think they did though.

Tbh when the end of the world comes it be down to the Flanders carrier pigeon to see us through.

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

funny about domestic mobile demand, cos when orange went live they reckoned
they had enough capacity to cover every person in china, ok not a great deal of
use in england, steady now, so how come still get network busy at new year
if their systems so capable.

[96terrano]

Im using my iPhone. Works fine even though the computer blew up:lol

[illy]

that radio looks like a bit of clansman kit to me.

illy

[solarman216]

Im using my iPhone. Works fine even though the computer blew up:lol

Interesting, transistor derived technology but did not fail, was it powered up at the time of the sun spot? although according to info I have accumulated on the subject over the years even un-powered devices will fail, but who knows, Rick

[Deleted account DD]

funny about domestic mobile demand, cos when orange went live they reckoned
they had enough capacity to cover every person in china, ok not a great deal of
use in england, steady now, so how come still get network busy at new year
if their systems so capable.


They reckon in a major incident most cities would lose most of their standard mobile coverage in a very short time (cant recall exact figures at this time of night :D ) Thats why only the very unwise have reliance on mobiles in their emergency and business continuity plans, have a bag of change and a little black book.

Theres loads of anecdotal evidence and accounts after Manchester and London to name just 2 where phone boxes kept going strong, plus BT bring in their emergency kit :thumb2

If anyone gets the chance to via local retail or other organizations, go to an Operation Argus presentation. The local counter terrorism bods do it. Very good :thumb2

[Daz__]

Ooo...er!!!

2012 !!!!!! may come true then???

[Deleted account DD]

Interesting, transistor derived technology but did not fail, was it powered up at the time of the sun spot? although according to info I have accumulated on the subject over the years even un-powered devices will fail, but who knows, Rick

Few years back where i lived there was a massive power surge. Loads of people reported their computers blowing up but in the cold light of day it seemed it was the first stop into the appliance that had blown, switched on or not, ie modems or cable boxes :thumb2

[Thomas-the-Terrano2]

just argus it eh?

funny how many folks only have mobiles, or at home have wireless phones
and no wired phone for back up.

we keep an oldish wired bt phone next to the modem.

similar vain how many have payg phones only and always (nearly) out of
credit. sloppy behaviour when have youngsters at home.

[lacroupade]

Who needs a solar storm.....the biggest telecoms company in China (Huawei) is offering to install a £50m mobile network across the entire London Underground for the Olympics bid so that you can make calls from anywhere on the Tube. :thumb2

They are offering to do it for free.:eek:

Now I can't imagine why they'd want to do that....?:nenau

Oh wait, yes I can...!:doh

[96terrano]

We've got an old wired phone as a spare. Found this on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoaLGvJkoP8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

[Deleted account DD]

just argus it eh?



you wouldnt...well you probably would.........believe how many people get them mixed up :thumb2

They also launched the project around the same time as Richard E grant was doing the Argoosy ads, its a national exercise led and developed by the secret organisation based in London who previously didnt exist but now actually have a web site advertising how to apply to be a spy ......... only in this country eh :doh:doh:doh



(ps this is all public domain stuff :thumb2)

[Deleted account DD]

In fact if you think you may be suitable, heres the on line self assessment ;)


http://www.cubiksonline.com/SecurityService/Assessment/Instructions.aspx

[rustic]

I've at last got round to going WiFi on the main computer, using a USB RFI dongle, so the telephone wire is no longer directly connected to the computer via the Hub.

Last Summer we had a close lightning strike, luckily I had pulled all cables out of the computer.
When I tried it all, two phones had blown up, also the Hub, in fact I got a shock from the Hub, as the power supply had shorted out.

If the computer had been connected, the computer would have been wrecked, also the screen, keyboard, printer, scanner etc.

[lacroupade]

We've got an old wired phone as a spare. Found this on YouTube.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoaLGvJkoP8&feature=youtube_gdata_player

not sure if that works well in the UK. the phone line is 50v DC when not in use, with a current of around 5mA I think, but that rises to about 25mA when a call is being made. I can't remember the current when its ringing, but its 75V and it fricking stings I can tell you that :(

[willow]

Who needs a solar storm.....the biggest telecoms company in China (Huawei) is offering to install a £50m mobile network across the entire London Underground for the Olympics bid so that you can make calls from anywhere on the Tube. :thumb2

They are offering to do it for free.:eek:

Now I can't imagine why they'd want to do that....?:nenau

Oh wait, yes I can...!:doh

I have been saying for years we are at war from within .....and we are just letting them take over......we are no longer free.... the war began long ago....

We are all doomed...:(:(:(

So for now let the music play on:)

[lacroupade]

I have been saying for years we are at war from within .....and we are just letting them take over......we are no longer free.... the war began long ago....

We are all doomed...:(:(:(

So for now let the music play on:)

And Boris Johnson is all for it?!:doh

[rustic]

not sure if that works well in the UK. the phone line is 50v DC when not in use, with a current of around 5mA I think, but that rises to about 25mA when a call is being made. I can't remember the current when its ringing, but its 75V and it fricking stings I can tell you that :(

I remember Corporal Jones (Dad's Army) the sketch when the phone wires were damaged, and Jones sitting on the wires when they made a call...:eek: :eek:

[solarman216]

But we do not have to be doomed, how about rebelling against this stupid load of Pratt's we call a government, I ask you, votes for criminals in nick, it is a joke, but I tell you now this Pratt Cameron has not got the balls to stand up to them, he will cave in and the scum will get the ability to vote, Rick

[lacroupade]

I remember Corporal Jones (Dad's Army) the sketch when the phone wires were damaged, and Jones sitting on the wires when they made a call...:eek: :eek:

well those old field telephones would be even worse - I think they've been used as instruments of torture even! :(

[willow]

And Boris Johnson is all for it?!:doh



well we could do a peasants revolt.... or do what we always do ....moan alot....
then hide our heads in the sand:rolleyes:....... then blame others for the mess we are in

[lacroupade]

well we could do a peasants revolt.... or do what we always do ....moan alot....
then hide our heads in the sand:rolleyes:....... then blame others for the mess we are in

well fortunately to the likes of you and I, London is another country all of its own LOL

[solarman216]

well we could do a peasants revolt.... or do what we always do ....moan alot....
then hide our heads in the sand:rolleyes:....... then blame others for the mess we are in

That is our problem we just lay back and take it, or I should say you, cos I do not and never will, I will not be dictated to by any one, and I think it is about time the people of England started to do the same, Rick

[willow]

well fortunately to the likes of you and I, London is another country all of its own LOL
London..... o yes thats where all the people who run this country live...
They need to get out more:)...... Start building those castles we are going to need them:rolleyes:

[solarman216]

London..... o yes thats where all the people who run this country live...
They need to get out more:)...... Start building those castles we are going to need them:rolleyes:

I got my castle right now and the council are not going to like it one bit, but applying their rules they are stuffed, hence big party here soon, you will all be invited by PM only, do not want gate crashers, Rick

[lacroupade]

I got my castle right now and the council are not going to like it one bit, but applying their rules they are stuffed, hence big party here soon, you will all be invited by PM only, do not want gate crashers, Rick

its a case of "four years elapsed" then is it? LMAO nice one :thumb2

[solarman216]

its a case of "four years elapsed" then is it? LMAO nice one :thumb2

Precisely, Rick

[jims-terrano]

I've got my end of the world telephone ready. :D

http://fez.coldcity.com/pictures/military/100_3591.jpg

Wow I want one for ATC:thumbs

Jim

[jims-terrano]

They reckon in a major incident most cities would lose most of their standard mobile coverage in a very short time (cant recall exact figures at this time of night :D ) Thats why only the very unwise have reliance on mobiles in their emergency and business continuity plans, have a bag of change and a little black book.

Theres loads of anecdotal evidence and accounts after Manchester and London to name just 2 where phone boxes kept going strong, plus BT bring in their emergency kit :thumb2

If anyone gets the chance to via local retail or other organizations, go to an Operation Argus presentation. The local counter terrorism bods do it. Very good :thumb2

You know what Dave, you could run a training day on this subject. Oh you did:lol

Jim

[Deleted account DD]

You know what Dave, you could run a training day on this subject. Oh you did:lol

Jim


shhhhh ;)

[briggie]

the trouble with a solar storm , is it generates a magnetic field of varying intensity ( geomagnetism ) , not only can that effect radio signals , it can also by its very nature effect electrical/electronic equipment to varying intensities also , another problem is when the magnetic field collapses .... but its starting to get a bit heavy now , and ive got some studying to do for my exam :o

[briggie]

or if you really want to be bored crapless ......

http://www.sciencedaily.com/articles/g/geomagnetic_storm.htm

[briggie]

or ..... if you really really really want to be bored crapless ......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_storm#Radiation_hazards_to_humans

[jims-terrano]

Tuesday night I was teaching a class of teenagers about propogation and how sun spots effect this. Try saying "coronal mass ejection" in front of half a dozen teens and see what happens:lol:lol:lol I took great care in pronouncing correctly but still got caos:doh

Jim

[briggie]

Tuesday night I was teaching a class of teenagers about propogation and how sun spots effect this. Try saying "coronal mass ejection" in front of half a dozen teens and see what happens:lol:lol:lol I took great care in pronouncing correctly but still got caos:doh

Jim

:jesterbg

premature coronal mass ejection oh what a nuisance :doh

[willow]

Tuesday night I was teaching a class of teenagers about propogation and how sun spots effect this. Try saying "coronal mass ejection" in front of half a dozen teens and see what happens:lol:lol:lol I took great care in pronouncing correctly but still got caos:doh

Jim

:) you are brave teaching teenagers:)...... but every word you speak will be
twisted around to s.e.x ....you know that:):)... so what are you growing:lol:rolleyes::)

[96terrano]

Lol, as a teenager, I understand :jesterbg :jesterbg