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Set auction sniper up today to snipe 2004 primera set up fine said was ready but didnt put the bid in.Reason was that seller wanted paypal only and my account didnt have paypal linked to it.Anyway emailed the seller asked if deal fell through i could buy it he replied and said buyer was from wales and if i wanted it come and get it:thumbs So got 04 plate primera for £205 result .So if anyone is using snipe software bare in mind if its paypal only your ebay account must be linked to paypal account or the bid wont go in
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 00:15
Set auction sniper up today to snipe 2004 primera set up fine said was ready but didnt put the bid in.Reason was that seller wanted paypal only and my account didnt have paypal linked to it.Anyway emailed the seller asked if deal fell through i could buy it he replied and said buyer was from wales and if i wanted it come and get it:thumbs So got 04 plate primera for £205 result .So if anyone is using snipe software bare in mind if its paypal only your ebay account must be linked to paypal account or the bid wont go in
Good deal well done. Don't know what sniper you've got but thats the first one I've heard with a restriction like that. But then I get mine from dodgy sources :thumbs
Good deal well done. Don't know what sniper you've got but thats the first one I've heard with a restriction like that. But then I get mine from dodgy sources :thumbs
was auctionsniper.com it was blocked by ebay was all set up fine until it was put in then got rejected.What one do you use
Deleted account DD
21-02-2011, 19:45
quick question..............
whats the difference between simply putting in your max bid and using a sniper :nenau
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 19:50
quick question..............
whats the difference between simply putting in your max bid and using a sniper :nenau
simple you rookie you.....putting any bid up shows interest and encourages others to do the same. The less bids the better.:augie
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 19:51
was auctionsniper.com it was blocked by ebay was all set up fine until it was put in then got rejected.What one do you use
I've used several but the latest is auction auto bidder - think its the pro version, obtained from a ... ahem ....download site :augie
wonder what happens if youve got three people all with snipers,watching an item!
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 19:58
wonder what happens if youve got three people all with snipers,watching an item!
depends on who's got the highest max bid and the timing I think.....with only three seonds to spare in many cases there often won't be time for the sniper to whack in another higher bid if it comes up against a competitive one....
(RIP) PLANK
21-02-2011, 19:59
wonder what happens if youve got three people all with snipers,watching an item!
some very fast bidding! :lol I once sold a caravan and the price doubled from £1700 to £3400 and some odd in the last minute :thumb2
I'm not sure how much sniping helps, if you are willing to pay a given price then, whether you put it on via ebay or a sniper site the outcome is the same, just all the action is at the last minute. Maybe in the early days it did, but if everyone is doing it .... :nenau
solarman216
21-02-2011, 20:01
wonder what happens if youve got three people all with snipers,watching an item!
That was my question also, but I guess the highest bidder? but do not quite know how that works, Rick
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 20:12
That was my question also, but I guess the highest bidder? but do not quite know how that works, Rick
I think part of it is that these things are sticking bids on from a remote location that probably has a much faster connection to ebay servers so a lot of it happens faster than Daved can shut his wallet. Sounds impossible I know...:lol:lol
so if someones got a high bid left on an item,snipers connection software etc faster than ebays,stopping there bid to go in,cool!
" i reserve the right to end the auction at anytime due to the item (s) being advertised elsewhere " .... kinda destroys the sniper idea though
i dont even put that just a phone number and contact me for better deal or to combine shipping and bang its gone cash in hand luvely jubly!
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 20:20
so if someones got a high bid left on an item,snipers connection software etc faster than ebays,stopping there bid to go in,cool!
not quite, if its an ebay high bid then the ebay server will bang it on regardless (it was logged when the bidder made it spo ebay knows what it is, even though ebay only publicises the highest bid necessary to take the lead during the auction if you see what I mean), just means the sniper bid then has to exceed it.
But if your max sniper bid is higher than any existing maximum bids and any other sniper bids, then the fact that you can set it to bid at only one second before the auction ends, kind of fecks up anyones attempt to rebid...:augie
(RIP) PLANK
21-02-2011, 20:20
" i reserve the right to end the auction at anytime due to the item (s) being advertised elsewhere " .... kinda destroys the sniper idea though
i agree, as if they aren't having any interest in the auction, it is more likely to be sold elsewhere :rolleyes:
thats what i meant,with 1 sec to go will ebays thing outbid the sniper? bit cheeky if it does! i like to think of ebay as a marketing tool!
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 20:29
i agree, as if they aren't having any interest in the auction, it is more likely to be sold elsewhere :rolleyes:
That phrase is technically not acceptable. Basic law of contract which includes auctions, says that all thats required is an offer to sell and acceptance.....one bid is enough. Dickheads like that should use reserve pricing.
Its just that eBay doesn't enforce things properly. Same old shite as people who write things like "not my responsibility to make a claim if item is lost but I'll send you the posting receipt". F*ck off you f*ckwit! I report every one I see and they get pulled LOL.
The shop pricing argument is a bit different....incorrectly priced items don't have to be sold at that price because they are deemed to be an 'offer to treat' ....which indicates a parties willingness to sell, as opposed to an actual offer to sell. But given that the fines for incorrect pricing are very significant indeed, its always worth having the discussion :thumb2
(RIP) PLANK
21-02-2011, 20:32
That phrase is technically not acceptable. Basic law of contract which includes auctions, says that all thats required is an offer to sell and acceptance.....one bid is enough. Dickheads like that should use reserve pricing.
Its just that eBay doesn't enforce things properly. Same old shite as people who write things like "not my responsibility to make a claim if item is lost but I'll send you the posting receipt". F*ck off you f*ckwit! I report every one I see and they get pulled LOL.
The shop pricing argument is a bit different....incorrectly priced items don't have to be sold at that price because they are deemed to be an 'offer to treat' ....which indicates a parties willingness to sell, as opposed to an actual offer to sell. But given that the fines for incorrect pricing are very significant indeed, its always worth having the discussion :thumb2
but you don't put a bid on - you leave it to the last split second via a sniper :augie
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 20:32
thats what i meant,with 1 sec to go will ebays thing outbid the sniper? bit cheeky if it does! i like to think of ebay as a marketing tool!
if the ebay bid is higher then yes of course it will win, but if the sniper bid is higher than a nornal ebay maximum bid then yes, it wins every time.
All sniping does is let you put a maximum bid on, but it doesn't lodge it with ebay until the very last second when its too late for anyone else to up their lower bids....so it also stops last minute gazumping.
but the argument between snipers is a bit more complex and flaky I suspect.
but you don't put a bid on - you leave it to the last split second via a sniper :augie
unless of course by then the seller has ended the auction :augie
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 20:34
but you don't put a bid on - you leave it to the last split second via a sniper :augie
no i was just talking about someone pulling an auction early thats actually got a bid on it just because its lower than they'd like, by pretending its sold through the local paper or some such crap.:)
(RIP) PLANK
21-02-2011, 20:35
no i was just talking about someone pulling an auction early thats actually got a bid on it just because its lower than they'd like, by pretending its sold through the local paper or some such crap.:)
proper auctions are strict, i think most ebay bidders and seller wouldn't last 5 minutes with a chartered auctioneer pointing his gavel at em :augie
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 20:40
proper auctions are strict, i think most ebay bidders and seller wouldn't last 5 minutes with a chartered auctioneer pointing his gavel at em :augie
oo-err missus! :eek:
But I only discovered a couple of years ago the legality of 'bidding off the wall' where theres a reserve price....got to be careful :thumbs
(RIP) PLANK
21-02-2011, 20:43
oo-err missus! :eek:
But I only discovered a couple of years ago the legality of 'bidding off the wall' where theres a reserve price....got to be careful :thumbs
very careful - i have a friend and who is an expert at it, he looks between you and the bloke next to you and the price goes up :lol
Deleted account DD
21-02-2011, 20:52
simple you rookie you.....putting any bid up shows interest and encourages others to do the same. The less bids the better.:augie
cheeky so and so , rookie my arse 10 years a member on that rip off site in April !!!!
No the point is if theres interest theres interest :nenau unless theres shilling going on it wont make any difference. I snipe successfully big time on there but by the good old fashioned way.............me :D
Just bid late and watch carefully.
if i want sommat i put max i am willing to buy it for,if it goes over theyll be another one! always send a question on cash price sod ebay/paypal fees if i can (ebay own paypal so get paid twice!)
That phrase is technically not acceptable. Basic law of contract which includes auctions, says that all thats required is an offer to sell and acceptance.....one bid is enough. Dickheads like that should use reserve pricing.
Its just that eBay doesn't enforce things properly. Same old shite as people who write things like "not my responsibility to make a claim if item is lost but I'll send you the posting receipt". F*ck off you f*ckwit! I report every one I see and they get pulled LOL.
The shop pricing argument is a bit different....incorrectly priced items don't have to be sold at that price because they are deemed to be an 'offer to treat' ....which indicates a parties willingness to sell, as opposed to an actual offer to sell. But given that the fines for incorrect pricing are very significant indeed, its always worth having the discussion :thumb2
problem with the contract thing is ebay claims that by bidding you are entering to a legally binding contract this is not true i spoke to them at length about this when a buyer refused to pay for an item eventially they admitted that the ebay 'contract' hasnt been tested in uk law but if i wanted to do a test case i was welcome to do so
Deleted account DD
21-02-2011, 20:58
if i want sommat i put max i am willing to buy it for,if it goes over theyll be another one! always send a question on cash price sod ebay/paypal fees if i can (ebay own paypal so get paid twice!)
Agreed. works for me. What i do (and advertise it on the listing) is offer discount for cash on collection. Saves me posting things and saves us both money, not much, but its better in our pocket than ebay plc :D
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 21:01
cheeky so and so , rookie my arse 10 years a member on that rip off site in April !!!!
No the point is if theres interest theres interest :nenau unless theres shilling going on it wont make any difference. I snipe successfully big time on there but by the good old fashioned way.............me :D
Just bid late and watch carefully.
well more than 40% of all auctions are now ended by sniping, that rises to almost 60% on antiques categories......so you and your ZX Spectrum are f****d I'd say :augie:lol:lol
I used to get up at 3am regularly to bid on Georg Jensen silver in US auctions, and was seriously pi55ed when I lost one for obvious reasons.
fact is, if theres a formal eBay maximum bid, doesn't mean its a sensible one because 'auction fever' often persuades people to keep bidding til they overtake it. Sniping avoids that cos they don't know you're there and are lulled into a false sense of security.
i even cancel the transaction after its collected/sold get refund on sellers fees lol! pennies make pounds!
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 21:04
problem with the contract thing is ebay claims that by bidding you are entering to a legally binding contract this is not true i spoke to them at length about this when a buyer refused to pay for an item eventially they admitted that the ebay 'contract' hasnt been tested in uk law but if i wanted to do a test case i was welcome to do so
I think you were talking to a muppet TBH. The law of contract is centuries old and extremely simple. The fact its an internet auction makes no difference. Any court would simply consider the circumstances and should enforce the contract - its just that the reality is often a lot less practical. I mean if he claims to have sold it elsewhere, theres nothing to enforce and what damages could you possible have incurred?
Courts hate enforcing contracts of emplyment for example, even though the law can be quite clear on the matter.
The Patrolman
21-02-2011, 21:05
Why don't we try it out??:nenau
I'll set up a one day auction for a 1p piece for 1p.:D
We can all set up our snipers for 10p at 3 seconds,:thumb
Daved can watch the auction and place a last second bid of 100 Quid,:augie
And we can look at the results;)
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 21:05
i even cancel the transaction after its collected/sold get refund on sellers fees lol! pennies make pounds!
I bet eBay loves you! No wonder I'm paying 10% these days!
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 21:06
Why don't we try it out??:nenau
I'll set up a one day auction for a 1p piece for 1p.:D
We can all set up our snipers for 10p at 3 seconds,:thumb
Daved can watch the auction and place a last second bid of 100 Quid,:augie
And we can look at the results;)
No I think £1000 would offer a better statistical sample :D
Deleted account DD
21-02-2011, 21:13
well more than 40% of all auctions are now ended by sniping, that rises to almost 60% on antiques categories......so you and your ZX Spectrum are f****d I'd say :augie:lol:lol
I used to get up at 3am regularly to bid on Georg Jensen silver in US auctions, and was seriously pi55ed when I lost one for obvious reasons.
fact is, if theres a formal eBay maximum bid, doesn't mean its a sensible one because 'auction fever' often persuades people to keep bidding til they overtake it. Sniping avoids that cos they don't know you're there and are lulled into a false sense of security.
ahhh but everything has a maximum price so set it and leave it, biggest downfall on there is auction fever, ive got dragged into it in the past usually after a beer or two but far too cynical now
but as jace says another will come along :thumb2
Some areas yes, for the average elderly bidder getting up at 3am sniper could be useful but for the likes of me im just not convinced :D
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 21:14
ah but there are some items that are never repeated, got to be had ;)
Deleted account DD
21-02-2011, 21:14
i even cancel the transaction after its collected/sold get refund on sellers fees lol! pennies make pounds!
funny you should say that :D :augie:augie AND you still get to leave feedback :thumb2
Deleted account DD
21-02-2011, 21:17
ah but there are some items that are never repeated, got to be had ;)
Thats when you do get up at 3am
I think you were talking to a muppet TBH. The law of contract is centuries old and extremely simple. The fact its an internet auction makes no difference. Any court would simply consider the circumstances and should enforce the contract - its just that the reality is often a lot less practical. I mean if he claims to have sold it elsewhere, theres nothing to enforce and what damages could you possible have incurred?
Courts hate enforcing contracts of emplyment for example, even though the law can be quite clear on the matter.
What happened is i sold welding set for £400 buyer didnt want it ebay just said do the despute thing get your fee back so ive lost nothing so would the court force the buyer to pay £400 or take the view that ive lost nothing so side with the buyer.If it was legally binding i should have been able to claim the £400 for the item
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 21:21
What happened is i sold welding set for £400 buyer didnt want it ebay just said do the despute thing get your fee back so ive lost nothing so would the court force the buyer to pay £400 or take the view that ive lost nothing so side with the buyer.If it was legally binding i should have been able to claim the £400 for the item
as the law stands thats exactly what should happen. but the buyer could plead all sorts of crap and maybe pay £1 a week and you're welder-less:(
But if he wasn't a man of straw and it was a Ferrari......
(RIP) PLANK
21-02-2011, 21:24
as the law stands thats exactly what should happen. but the buyer could plead all sorts of crap and maybe pay £1 a week and you're welder-less:(
But if he wasn't a man of straw and it was a Ferrari......
but the court could take ages, two years wouldn't be unusual, and all that time you would have to keep the car hanging around, and still you might loose :nenau
I think ebay is a game of chance, slap your stuff on there and hope for the best, it's about all you can do
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 21:26
but the court could take ages, two years wouldn't be unusual, and all that time you would have to keep the car hanging around, and still you might loose :nenau
I think ebay is a game of chance, slap your stuff on there and hope for the best, it's about all you can do
which is exactly what the ba5tards who run it rely on.....:(
which is exactly what the ba5tards who run it rely on.....:(
Of course were only jelous that we didnt think of starting up an online auction website and robbing 10% (oh and the 3.4% paypal fee)just for the priveledge of using a bit of webspace
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 21:54
Of course were only jelous that we didnt think of starting up an online auction website and robbing 10% (oh and the 3.4% paypal fee)just for the priveledge of using a bit of webspace
yes but you have to be a geeky dork. Bugger the money.:thumb2
How much was it exactly? :confused:
yes but you have to be a geeky dork. Bugger the money.:thumb2
How much was it exactly? :confused:
Ebay's net profit was $412 million (£271.3 million),For second quater 2010 Quite a tidy sum then
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 22:52
Ebay's net profit was $412 million (£271.3 million),For second quater 2010 Quite a tidy sum then
I've seen valuations of around $65 billion... :(
I've seen valuations of around $65 billion... :(
is that for my joke book ? :augie
(RIP) PLANK
21-02-2011, 22:59
I've seen valuations of around $65 billion... :(
have I clicked the ling to the wrong thread? are we still talking about Dave's private plate? :augie
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 23:00
have I clicked the ling to the wrong thread? are we still talking about Dave's private plate? :augie
No its my todger insurance.:augie
(RIP) PLANK
21-02-2011, 23:02
No its my todger insurance.:augie
i am stumped for something witty to say about that :nenau
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 23:05
i am stumped for something witty to say about that :nenau
your unconsciously Freudian use of the word "stumped" will suffice....:augie
(RIP) PLANK
21-02-2011, 23:08
your unconsciously Freudian use of the word "stumped" will suffice....:augie
how do you know it was unconcious?
definition stump:
1. The part of a tree trunk left protruding from the ground after the tree has fallen or has been felled.
2. A part, as of a branch, limb, or tooth, remaining after the main part has been cut away, broken off, or worn down.
there are more :augie
lacroupade
21-02-2011, 23:20
how do you know it was unconcious?
definition stump:
1. The part of a tree trunk left protruding from the ground after the tree has fallen or has been felled.
2. A part, as of a branch, limb, or tooth, remaining after the main part has been cut away, broken off, or worn down.
there are more :augie
stop already, my groin is aching :eek:
Why don't we try it out??:nenau
I'll set up a one day auction for a 1p piece for 1p.:D
We can all set up our snipers for 10p at 3 seconds,:thumb
Daved can watch the auction and place a last second bid of 100 Quid,:augie
And we can look at the results;)
Edit: Just read the end properly. Would go to daved for about 11p.
All the sniper tool does it bid your max bid at the last few seconds. So for example of your max bid was £200 for something. And someone else using a sniper's max bid was £180 you would have got it for £180.
But in theory someone could have their max bid at £199 so you would of got it for £199 as yours is still the highest bid.
I usually only use snipers if something ends late at night, As my hand is fast enough to sniper. If I don't forget about the item. :lol
(RIP) PLANK
21-02-2011, 23:27
It would then go to the person who bid first, Could be down to milli seconds. The other bidders bids won't go through as a bid needs to be higher.
All the sniper tool does it bid your max bid at the last few seconds. So for example of your max bid was £200 for something. And someone else using a sniper's max bid was £180 you would have got it for £180.
But in theory someone could have their max bid at £199 so you would of got it for £199 as yours is still the highest bid.
I usually only use snipers if something ends late at night, As my hand is fast enough to sniper. If I don't forget about the item. :lol
from aching groins, to fast hands in two replies :eek:
Deleted account DD
21-02-2011, 23:30
I usually only use snipers if something ends late at night, As my hand is fast enough to sniper. If I don't forget about the item. :lol
Agree with you :thumb2 all you need is mutiple windows or tabs open
I missed some wheels down to memory though :doh nothing to do with sniping, just forgot to bid :nenau
I missed some wheels down to memory though :doh nothing to do with sniping, just forgot to bid :nenau
I've missed some bargains in my time, I try and set a alarm 5 mins before now. :doh
(RIP) PLANK
21-02-2011, 23:31
Agree with you :thumb2 all you need is mutiple windows or tabs open
I missed some wheels down to memory though :doh nothing to do with sniping, just forgot to bid :nenau
i often miss things, i rely on Karma, and it doesn't work :(
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