View Full Version : 2000 Y61 3 litre turbo - good idea or not?
Karinofnine
15-02-2011, 21:15
Sorry to keep on about this, but I'm still trying to decide on what would make a good replacement for my Y60 Patrol. The Navara is out, not a viable tow car. So I'm thinking about a Y61. The 3.0 litre Turbo puts out enough torque to easily tow the caravan.
Does anyone have any bouquets or brickbats for this car?
What about this one?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=330530757796&category=18238&_trksid=p5197.c0.m619
It's cheap (at the moment) - a little bit worried about the engine warning light, if I buy it it will have to be blind, I can't go to Yorkshire twice. What questions should I ask the seller?
Thanks.
hi karin , im in yorkshire , but im the last person you want to ask to look at it for you :o
Karinofnine
15-02-2011, 21:23
Why's that? (I mean why should you not look at it, not why do you live in Yorkshire)
me , cars and e bay ....... not a good combination bearing in mind my experiences .... im sure someone will correct me , but i think a member called larson was selling his patrol a while back that was a y61 i fink
avoid pre 03 versions ak robert (thomas the terrano) dodgy pistons on early models,esentialy same engine as mine and thats had four new pistons! plenty power to pull 1850kg trailer at 80mph without knowing it was on back! engine light would worry heck outve me until itd been on computer to tell me it was something silly! cat c write off aswell wouldve had to be inspected etc before alowed back on road i believe.
just a warning though karin , that one is a cat c write off , did you know ?
solarman216
15-02-2011, 21:47
I would only buy this motor if I had a known good mechanic give it a really good going over,, I would not buy it blind at all, you may be able to get one of the motoring organizations to vet it for you but I expect that will cost, Rick
check auto trader aswell,ebay can be overpriced!
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201104378342471/sort/priceasc/usedcars/include-non-classified/on/fuel-type/diesel/price-to/6000/engine-size-cars/3l_to_3-9l/body-type/4x4/make/nissan/page/1/postcode/cv345pu/radius/1500?logcode=p
Karinofnine
15-02-2011, 21:50
Yes, I realised it had been damaged and repaired. Was thinking that was why it was cheap. Jace, it has to be pre 03, I can't afford newer. I'm going into overdraft as it is.
any good karin ?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201103377791842/sort/priceasc/usedcars/price-to/3000/model/patrol/make/nissan/quicksearch/true/radius/1501/postcode/hd62du/page/1?logcode=p
any good karin ?
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201103377791842/sort/priceasc/usedcars/price-to/3000/model/patrol/make/nissan/quicksearch/true/radius/1501/postcode/hd62du/page/1?logcode=p
down your way too innit ?
check what he had on front,towbar for boat lauching,maybe salt water!
obviously check it over well , but it looks good and its near karin too
Karinofnine
15-02-2011, 22:08
Jace, I'm not keen on the looks of the Terrano, I know loads of people on here swear by them and really like them, and I'm sure they are brilliant cars, but I prefer big square boxy cars, even the Y61 is a bit curvy for me, but I will have to get the new car in the next couple of weeks.
Briggie, I looked at that car but it's only a 2.8 - they haven't got much go about them and it's a completely different engine from the 4.2, not just smaller, totally different (and poxy, IMHO).
i had the 3.2 troll and loved it sommat about 6cyl and truck engineering ,it had a cable you pulled to turn it off,key just turned electrics off!
Karinofnine
15-02-2011, 23:04
Lol, my Troll was slightly more refined than that! I hope the bastards who nicked it get piles.
Lol, my Troll was slightly more refined than that! I hope the bastards who nicked it get piles.
nah karin .. just hope their next poo is a hedgehog :lol:lol
Jace, I'm not keen on the looks of the Terrano, I know loads of people on here swear by them and really like them, and I'm sure they are brilliant cars, but I prefer big square boxy cars, even the Y61 is a bit curvy for me, but I will have to get the new car in the next couple of weeks.
Briggie, I looked at that car but it's only a 2.8 - they haven't got much go about them and it's a completely different engine from the 4.2, not just smaller, totally different (and poxy, IMHO).
Hello,
Are you thinking of the newer GU 2.8 4cyl? the old GQ one is still a 6 cyl
The Patrolman
16-02-2011, 00:27
nah karin .. just hope their next poo is a hedgehog :lol:lol
Hope it comes out BACKWARDS!!:eek:
Thomas-the-Terrano2
16-02-2011, 11:27
robert, robert who the hell is robert, kin hell jace tha knows my name from fb....
anyway Karin my 2000 x reg y61 3.0tdi zd has just had rebuild, head gasket failure
revealed one slight crack in a piston, then 2 more surfaces. so 4 new ones fitted.
superb motor, on a good day, lets face it not going to get much else in a troll if
dont want 6 cylinder 2.8.
i'm off j.30/31 M1 if can assist, more your arm chair mechanic but been in nissan
4x4s 6 years, got a fair idea, could probably russle up a spanner monkey lol in area
too.
richard
(was rbrt, never robert!)
This might be a bit of a big favour to ask the seller, but he could try the diagonostics mode on the car with the paper clip shorting two pins on the OBD connector? This might flash up an error
Karinofnine
16-02-2011, 12:44
"anyway Karin my 2000 x reg y61 3.0tdi zd has just had rebuild, head gasket failure
revealed one slight crack in a piston, then 2 more surfaces. so 4 new ones fitted.
superb motor, on a good day, lets face it not going to get much else in a troll if
dont want 6 cylinder 2.8"
So are you saying they are good or not good? Were you just unlucky with yours?
When I towed with the old Patrol it horsed along the flat no problem, but it did die quite badly on hills - so this time I would quite like something with a bit of go. One of the 3L Y61s put out 363 n/m @ 1800 rpm (I think) and the other 323 n/m @ 2000 rpm - both of which is way more than the old Troll had and should see me whizzing up hills in Wales.
i think it was bad engineering by nissan on the zd3.0 mine had same problem,i think they changed engine components after 2003,plenty go from mine and it hasnt got an intercooler so will be down a bit on uk versions like richs!
Karinofnine
16-02-2011, 12:57
I suppose the decision is: go for an old Troll which is uber reliable and almost impossible to kill, but which is cumbersome, juicy and dies on hills or go for the spanky sparkly 3L turbo charged intercooled machine, fly up hills, and take a chance on the reliability/longevity issue.
If I do find something the other end of the country it would be nice if someone close by could have a look - not a full inspection obviously, but to get an impression of whether it's been thrashed and abused and horrible or a reasonable car.
I drove to Stoke on Trent to look at a Daihatsu Fourtrak that the seller described as "mint" (I used to have one and loved it). Ye Gods, if that was "mint" I'd like to see "comprehensively and utterly sh*gged in almost every respect"!
have you seen that 4.2 turbo on ebay fully refurbed but £7k! or theres the 04 navara 3.0td on auto trader i put up earlier!
When I towed with the old Patrol it horsed along the flat no problem, but it did die quite badly on hills - so this time I would quite like something with a bit of go. One of the 3L Y61s put out 363 n/m @ 1800 rpm (I think) and the other 323 n/m @ 2000 rpm - both of which is way more than the old Troll had and should see me whizzing up hills in Wales.[/QUOTE]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAfZ1N56qjY
:):)
Loads of info here if you want to confirm build years/defects etc... as per Jace's post :)
http://www.patrol4x4.com/forum/nissan-patrol-gu-gr-10/
lacroupade
16-02-2011, 17:05
I suppose the decision is: go for an old Troll which is uber reliable and almost impossible to kill, but which is cumbersome, juicy and dies on hills or go for the spanky sparkly 3L turbo charged intercooled machine, fly up hills, and take a chance on the reliability/longevity issue.
If I do find something the other end of the country it would be nice if someone close by could have a look - not a full inspection obviously, but to get an impression of whether it's been thrashed and abused and horrible or a reasonable car.
I drove to Stoke on Trent to look at a Daihatsu Fourtrak that the seller described as "mint" (I used to have one and loved it). Ye Gods, if that was "mint" I'd like to see "comprehensively and utterly sh*gged in almost every respect"!
Yopu got it in one, but do some research...the 3.0 engine was well sorted by the time it got into the Terrano around 2003, but as as been said, prior to that in the Troll it had a propensity to "do a Navara"......
I guess if you're used to towing a caravan around then you might find the Troll a bit small :eek: but ifg you look at prices, you'll find a late 3.0 T2 ticks all the boxes and is much more manageable and cost effective.....
(RIP) PLANK
16-02-2011, 17:50
I tow some very large caravans with a 2.t TDI T2, no problems, in fact you couldn't legally tow anything bigger, so why use all the extra fuel :thumb2
Thomas-the-Terrano2
17-02-2011, 00:03
the zd i love it, but kinda wish it was a simplier 4.2 6cyl td.....
it didnt let me down, in fact we did a 600 plus mile tug of 1700 kg
caravan to and from south wales via mid wales and m5.
poor thing was overheating on m5 back but didnt fail us.
had demisters on max heat and windows on vent to try to draw
excess heat off motor.
my terrano was a great tug but the troll is superb.
as i said there isnt really a lot of choice in motor department
unless go for the 4.8 petrol import, yum, with lpg or another
member mentioned if his zd went pop would look at shoe horning
the GM V8 TD all 6.2 or 6.5 litres of it drool.
its amazing what the zd puts out for its capacity guess like modern
cars its an evolved motor, not some lump from the stone age.
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