View Full Version : its bluddie ridiculous , im cross
take a read of the article below .... wot do you think ? ...... im fuming
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1353080/Prison-vote-Lawyers-line-thousands-convicts-claim-compensation.html?ito=feeds-newsxml
11redrex
03-02-2011, 23:51
Another case of us law abiding citizens getting ****ed by the system that's meant to protect us.
makeitfit
03-02-2011, 23:52
I dont understand why you always spell your swear words wrong mate?:nenau
Your proffanity is just as bad as mine just spelt funny.
You bruddy noob :lol
(RIP) PLANK
03-02-2011, 23:57
if it's right, it's very wrong :(
makeitfit
04-02-2011, 00:03
Let the buggers claim, but at 150 quid a pop what's the point of fighting the courts.
Just give them 150 quid and then they cant vote, job done:rolleyes:
lacroupade
04-02-2011, 00:03
if it's right, it's very wrong :(
well its an interesting debate (not the compensation).....theres an argument (not mine I hasten to add!) that says that, for example, if you aren't contributing to society why should you be allowed to vote.....so unemployed people would be excluded as well as crims. And bankers.:D Oh and Land Rover drivers.
That would put the cat among the pigeons....:augie
(RIP) PLANK
04-02-2011, 00:10
I never vote, too long winded to explain why here, so if I had been in prison could i still claim compensation for not being able to make my political statement by abstaining - rather than not being allowed to vote, being allowed to and choosing not too? If so can i commit a retrospective crime, get sentenced then get time off for all the time i have not been a criminal since? :nenau
lacroupade
04-02-2011, 00:12
I never vote, too long winded to explain why here, so if I had been in prison could i still claim compensation for not being able to make my political statement by abstaining - rather than not being allowed to vote, being allowed to and choosing not too? If so can i commit a retrospective crime, get sentenced then get time off for all the time i have not been a criminal since? :nenau
You think you're going to get away with that?
Cough......
solarman216
04-02-2011, 00:16
I am fuming too, reply sent to comments on Daily Mail, we should get out of this EU crap ASAP,,,, Rick
harlowmaverick
04-02-2011, 00:20
if they have convicted a crime against society or broke the law and rules that our society have evolved and created and have been governed by, then why should they have the right to vote whilst serving their time , after all isnt prison a place where we send people for rehabilitation and to keep them away from society?
if they have convicted a crime against society or broke the law and rules that our society have evolved and created and have been governed by, then why should they have the right to vote whilst serving their time , after all isnt prison a place where we send people for rehabilitation and to keep them away from society?
i always thought prison was a place where you lost your liberty /rights ..... maybe im wrong
harlowmaverick
04-02-2011, 00:29
thats also part of it briggie.
as for the eu, get out of it asap
(RIP) PLANK
04-02-2011, 09:30
You think you're going to get away with that?
Cough......
yes :augie
BALLS.
Europe can go suck 'em, Britain is its own man, and if it gives in to those sprouts im going to be fuming beyong belief.
70,000 odd cons so x that by £150 pop itd work out bit dear! not many of em can read or write so hardly likely to vote big fuss about nothing realy,just shows whos in charge though why bother with uk parliment might as well save cash and be run direct from brussels its gonna happen anyway lol
Thats what happens when you join the EU & put Labour in charge to screw the country :doh
Bring back M.Thatcher :bow
it needs someone like mrs t who got the balls to stand up for england,no more namby pamby hand wringers to concerned with spin.
vote monster raving loony party :thumb2 ..... lord such should be posthumously granted a knighthood :thumb2
:rolleyes:vote bnp!
:clap
Only got 1 seat left I think :(
Make England ENGLISH so we're not the so called ethnic minority :mad:
Close the doors to our over flowed country :banghead
We go abroad to live, we have to live to there rules & get looked down on :rolleyes:
They come over here & we have to accept em :mad: :banghead
NOT ME :nono I let people openly know how i feel & tell them straight :question PI55 OFF OUT OF OUR COUNTRY !
I'd better get off my high horse before extreme-4x4 deletes my post...
WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO FREEDOM OF SPEECH & OUR RIGHTS TO EXPRESS IT.!
In general everyday life & online on forums no matter what the forum is about
http://www.loonyparty.com/index.php?page=and-there-s-more
the only way to maintain freedom of speech, is to keep saying what you think. And when someone doesnt like it, tell them to lump it. anyways, this convict voting balls, its been on the cards for a while but i cant see HOW they can possibly justify it to the population that pays to keep them out of harms way. THEY HAVE NO RIGHTS. Thats the friggin point. Isnt it enough they have a cosy room, three decent meals, internet, games, telly, a bunch of mates on thier wave length, free gym, free everything. why not just let them out? I mean, whats the point in a prison these days? tell me?
I could get very worked up.:(
lacroupade
04-02-2011, 11:40
yes :augie
You're pathetic man - just like this 'ere mouse (:bow) ...stand up for your principles!!!:)
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We go abroad to live, we have to live to there rules & get looked down on :rolleyes:
....only when you come to Wales mate :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol
this convict voting balls, its been on the cards for a while but i cant see HOW they can possibly justify it to the population that pays to keep them out of harms way. THEY HAVE NO RIGHTS. Thats the friggin point. Isnt it enough they have a cosy room, three decent meals, internet, games, telly, a bunch of mates on thier wave length, free gym, free everything. why not just let them out? I mean, whats the point in a prison these days?(
Not to mention they can earn money :eek:
They should get sweet F.A. just the basics :clap
& If they have killed & there is 110% proff then eliminate there lives & save our cash :clap That i do think the Yanks have right :bow
....only when you come to Wales mate :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol
Welsh rules are better than English rules :augie :lol
i dont hold for the death penality its to quick,to easy locking someone away for yrs has an efect,ive been around lifers most are nice chaps then theres a few who are just orrible kiddy fiddlin scum one i knew didnt mind admiting it was his third strike for rape! openly bragged about it!,one was a ex marine came back to married quarters to find someone rogerin the mrs killed em both 33 yrs hed done because when they asked him what hed do put in same position again he answered kill the slag!
creatures like huntley id torture every day of there lives but never ever so bad they died best medical care so he could wake up every new day with torture to look forward to.
brummie muslim councilors who refused to stand and clap for returning marine is on news now spinning it to her advantage " i didnt want to asociate my self with other politicians who use these brave men as human shields" cheeky cow you thought you were being clever and its backfired!
creatures like huntley id torture every day of there lives but never ever so bad they died best medical care so he could wake up every new day with torture to look forward to.
:thumbs :clap :thumbs
the only way to maintain freedom of speech, is to keep saying what you think. And when someone doesnt like it, tell them to lump it. anyways, this convict voting balls, its been on the cards for a while but i cant see HOW they can possibly justify it to the population that pays to keep them out of harms way. THEY HAVE NO RIGHTS. Thats the friggin point. Isnt it enough they have a cosy room, three decent meals, internet, games, telly, a bunch of mates on thier wave length, free gym, free everything. why not just let them out? I mean, whats the point in a prison these days? tell me?
I could get very worked up.:(
"the only way to maintain freedom of speech, is to keep saying what you think"
i tried that on here, and along came colin the mod (extreme) and closed it, because peeps were moaning at him, lol :banghead
(RIP) PLANK
04-02-2011, 16:48
There is no such thing as 'freedom of speech' anywhere and never has been!
If we really had the right to say anything to anyone, at any time and any place, the people who bang on about it now, would be the first to complain!
The usually defence is 'that's different', as they defend their own principals!
you know i'm right :thumbs
i new you would be the first to reply "plank" :lol:cool:
(RIP) PLANK
04-02-2011, 17:00
how? "tezzer" :lol :lol
because your our resident liberal leftie hug a tree merchant who sees the world through rose tinted specs! lol
lacroupade
04-02-2011, 17:06
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in conclusion then , it appears that most people are against giving prisoners the right to vote , and against compensating them for losing the right to vote while in prison , is that a fair enough assumption ? :augie
thats a reasonable sumary, Peter.
yep! who bothers to vote,it makes no odds what party there all lying caniving c*nts who have sold us out to the eu superstate!
crickey adz youve nicked my job i used to be one arguing with all mods my only saving grace was the old admin mav who reckoned i cost him all his hair lol!
can we just be friends and agree to disagree on some subjects rather than cause a conflict situation that im sure nobody wants ? , please ? .... ignore me if you wish , its just a polite question :thumb2
in conclusion then , it appears that most people are against giving prisoners the right to vote , and against compensating them for losing the right to vote while in prison , is that a fair enough assumption ? :augie
thats a reasonable sumary, Peter.
Fooking right :clapb :thumbs
I know people that have been inside & i know a few members here have been inside NOT BOTHERED
But whilst inside they should have the bare minimum.
In some cases there better off than being on the outside...
itll be ok evryone knows no point in falling out! whod we rant at then lol mrs dont listen anymore!
prison should be reserved for serious offences rape,asault,murder etc or people who just wont stop nickin cars or robbin houses,not people for not paying council tax or shoplifting i was in open nik had home leave evey 28 days for 5 days lol was allowed out to work for proper wages at potato plant 6am-8pm had to pay hmp £30 rent lol no internet no dvd player no mobiles food shite single room own tv (£1week rent) had evry kindve offence immagnable around me some whod youd willingly slit there throats than look at to lazy to go gym phones turned of at 11pm but heh ho buy dodgy kit gota pay yer dues !
i suppose, one thing to remember, just because a person geos inside, it doesnt make them a bad person. You can go to prison for not paying pol tax, or punching nob face from next door who deserved it, when i remember there is people like that, I dont particularly want them getting more punishment than they deserve.
just a thought.
could make them listen to some of my jokes :naughty:augie:lol:lol
(RIP) PLANK
04-02-2011, 19:18
because your our resident liberal leftie hug a tree merchant who sees the world through rose tinted specs! lol
No mate, quite wrong, there are two things that make me stand out in certain threads:
1, not being a racist
2, not being stupid and contradicting myself
And you will find most people don't find either of those things annoying, nor do they feel threatened by them - only the ones that are 1 & 2.
:thumbs
never seen a racist post on here! and the thread that got closed you virtualy ended up quoting me word for word in the end! but he ho these battles are all good fun an were both veterans of many much to sharkie,mav and bats annoyance lol
(RIP) PLANK
04-02-2011, 21:00
never seen a racist post on here! and the thread that got closed you virtualy ended up quoting me word for word in the end! but he ho these battles are all good fun an were both veterans of many much to sharkie,mav and bats annoyance lol
no there are not racist posts on here, i never said there were, and mate i have never quoted you word for word - never will - you really are a bit daft aren't you? :doh
no there are not racist posts on here, i never said there were, and mate i have never quoted you word for word - never will - you really are a bit daft aren't you? :doh
ha ah pity its gone but i seem to remember the last time we were all on our high horses you having to agree with be,ive slept since then so cant bloody remember what was said lol
Deleted account DD
04-02-2011, 22:46
Lets get something straight here. This site has an excellent mix of people which is what makes it what it is. Individuals may find some things boring but if thats the case ...........ignore the thread :nenau
You will ALWAYS get differences and fall outs...........welcome to the real world.
I can say hand on heart theres only been one individual i could have gone off big time but he "resigned"
Otherwise top crowd all round :thumb2
The moderating is very fair on here. Imho i havent seen a bad decision yet and threads that have been locked do seem to have been locked considering the bigger picture :thumb2
Deleted account DD
04-02-2011, 22:47
well sorry if i bored you, with my problems ,
you didnt ;)
good site,good people,good banter keeps me amused for hours lol!
Thomas-the-Terrano2
04-02-2011, 23:04
adz, extreme consulted atleast me on the thread in questionand i said it wasnt in the clubs interest, this was also agreed with by a senior but non mod member that i happened to be on a call with when i received themessage. so please dont centre non positive comments, it was a team decision and lets move forward not doing our laundry in the forum, there is after all amod area.
secret handshake time eh! nudge nudge wink wink ,,,say no more lol
come on lads , shake hands , be friends and leave it before people get hurt/upset and it goes further than anyone wants it to .....please
carry on adam , say what you gotta say .
freedom of speech and all . tell you what i wont even make any threats of retaliation... hows that fill your boots chump
please please please take it to the mods area or in pm , its just a request from a normal member , ignore me if you wish , but you are both my friends and i hate to see this .
regards
pete
wow...how typical this has turned out.
lifes too short.
no im a nosy c*nt an wanna know now,come on guys this is like ol days of me and sharkie lol
Deleted account DD
04-02-2011, 23:22
I must have been asleep, didnt realise there was any deep bad vibes between the two of you.................
or am i right and there isnt so accept this is a one off bitchslap.
kiss and make up.......................errrr no actually, ive seen what col looks like, just shake hands ;)
extreme-4x4
04-02-2011, 23:25
and i should point out im pulling out of this thread both contributing and moderating it. ill pm tt2 to deal with this thread .
really im not continuing down this road .
so,,,,them prisoners eh? spose they think they are owed, thats why they're sueing :augie
so,,,,them prisoners eh? spose they think they are owed, thats why they're sueing :augie
£120,000.00 :eek:
Bloody joke in it :mad:
perhaps, in some weird twist, they should be forced to give their compensation to their victims>? now theres an idea.
perhaps, in some weird twist, they should be forced to give their compensation to their victims>? now theres an idea.
i like that idea clive :thumb2
damn good idea,but what if they killed there victim?
Deleted account DD
04-02-2011, 23:32
perhaps, in some weird twist, they should be forced to give their compensation to their victims>? now theres an idea.
or into the criminal injuries compo pot so payments can be higher to all the deserving.
damn good idea,but what if they killed there victim?
victims family are also victims.
if it was a loner with no family, then it goes to me.
damn good idea,but what if they killed there victim?
immediate family /next of kin
perhaps, in some weird twist, they should be forced to give their compensation to their victims>? now theres an idea.
damn good idea,but what if they killed there victim?
or into the criminal injuries compo pot so payments can be higher to all the deserving.
Or the victims family / relatives :rolleyes:
Thomas-the-Terrano2
04-02-2011, 23:35
right guys lets keep this back on track to briggies post,
owt else and i lock or delete entire thread.
first and only warning.
the air brush is coming out any time now...
yup, all that, can you imagine though if such a rule was enforced? things would begin changing in this country very quickly.
better still ,how about putting violent crims in a room with a straight jacket on and then letting the victims family / friends in for 10 minutes , with a total amnesty
damn fine idea that one,i always said they should take out front page adds saying myra hyndley or some such horror being released on such a date from such a prison coaches departing from every major city and free rocks,sticks etc avalble on request!
i think we all know our prison system mcould do with some major changes, same with some of our stupid laws, at the end of the day the voting could be split into two catagories, if your in there on something minor lets say none payment of ya council tax, then yea vote, if you're in there for rape, murder owt serious then no way should they be allowed to vote, why should someone like that have rights to vote when they took away the rights of the person they did such a horrible thing to
seems somethings gone missing lol
seems somethings gone missing lol
we got it back on topic :thumb2
we got it back on topic :thumb2
But it was back on topic before deletion :augie
seems weve hit a worm hole and traveled back in time "fire up the quatro" back to the good ol days lol
seems weve hit a worm hole and traveled back in time "fire up the quatro" back to the good ol days lol
I'll take the DeLorean :lol :thumbs
I'll take the DeLorean :lol :thumbs
fgs id rather take lynn .... is she asleep yet ? :augie:lol
fgs id rather take lynn .... is she asleep yet ? :augie:lol
I'll jump in the car :lol
can i go to bed now and leave you two love birds at it , or do you need some help ? :naughty
Deleted account DD
05-02-2011, 10:40
can i go to bed now and leave you two love birds at it , or do you need some help ? :naughty
did you stay on until just after midnight to prove youre not a pumpkin :confused:
lacroupade
05-02-2011, 13:10
why do I always miss the excitement? :(
Deleted account DD
05-02-2011, 15:53
why do I always miss the excitement? :(
pumpkin
lacroupade
05-02-2011, 15:56
pumpkin
well I had to be at work in the you-know-what shop this morning :augie
(RIP) PLANK
05-02-2011, 16:00
I think - if the law says give them the vote, then give it to them - it's no bloody use to them anyway, never does any of is on the outside any good, does it? I have never seen any political manifesto that included a 'be nice to murderers day' so what would they get out of it? Answer - nothing.
as for the compo, a big 'NO WAY' - so now it is legal to use veg oil without paying tax - should we give compo to all those who were done for it before the law changed?
Think of all the laws that have changed over the years, we don't have retrospective prosecutions for anything, do we?
Deleted account DD
05-02-2011, 16:05
I think - if the law says give them the vote
Point is, the law doesnt say give em the vote.
Not UK law.
lacroupade
05-02-2011, 16:06
wow, a hole in the fabric of the space/time continuum....:eek:
:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol
Deleted account DD
05-02-2011, 16:11
wow, a hole in the fabric of the space/time continuum....:eek:
:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol
Not quite, its actually in our laws that convicted prisoners will not have the vote. Stazibourg is saying they should, They have not. So its not in OUR laws ;)
eu law over rules uk law so it is the law!
Deleted account DD
05-02-2011, 16:12
eu law over rules uk lawso it is the law!
Not always, in a test case it CAN take primacy. We are still a sovereign state.
EU law was enshrined to protect the wider population. It meant you could expect the same treatment wherever you went. It was not meant to replace practical and reasonable laws in participating states.
Hence the challenge and the fact that our no vote law has to date been up held:thumb2
(RIP) PLANK
05-02-2011, 16:16
Point is, the law doesnt say give em the vote.
Not UK law.
'IF' it's a big little word mate:augie and it is now pretty much a forgone conclusion :thumb2
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/law-and-order/8103580/Prisoners-to-get-the-vote-for-the-first-time.html
OK then look at it this way - i vote, give them the vote, that is about as meaningful as any vote any prisoner will ever cast!
Giving them compo for this is ridiculous, could all women who were paid less than men (in the same job) before the law changed get compensated for that? -Answer : NO
Or all the drunk drivers who were told to go home and sleep it off, before that law changed, were they rounded up and prosecuted after wards? - NO
the list goes on - if we must let them vote (and i believe it would do no real harm) let them. There should be limits on this, and even make their vote count in their home constituency only, to save wards with large prisons in their midst being swamped by prisoner votes. BUT NO COMPO!
But as always - how true is the story we are discussing :nenau
i think labour signed it onto the statute books therefore it overules uk sovereign law,this test case has come about becuase politicians have realised it makes them look bad,but thats what they get for not thinking things through properely!
Deleted account DD
05-02-2011, 16:23
i think labour signed it onto the statute books therefore it overules uk sovereign law,this test case has come about becuase politicians have realised it makes them look bad,but thats what they get for not thinking things through properely!
Theyre going to get it anyway as Plank says :nenau
There is a longg longggg process involved in enforcing European over sovereign state law.
Deleted account DD
05-02-2011, 16:24
'
But as always - how true is the story we are discussing :nenau
Its been around for ages ;)
ponds and ounces they get it betya a straight bannana they do! and imagine being an mp for redditch where theres nigh on 2000 cons with a vote or wolverhampton again maybe 2000 cons and normal turnout is low one eye catching policy for cons and bang your elected!
(RIP) PLANK
05-02-2011, 16:28
I got a parking ticket once, close to our local 'nick'
now, thanks to the EDL demos they have new riot vans, too big for the car park. SO they have lifted the double yellows and painted an white dash outlined parking bay for them in the street - where i got the ticket
it's been a few years - but can i now claim compo? :augie
Deleted account DD
05-02-2011, 16:33
I got a parking ticket once, close to our local 'nick'
now, thanks to the EDL demos they have new riot vans, too big for the car park. SO they have lifted the double yellows and painted an white dash outlined parking bay for them in the street - where i got the ticket
it's been a few years - but can i now claim compo? :augie
Unlikely ;) but you didnt need me to tell you that.
We do an op now and then on the A19, emergency layby has double yellows. HA or whoever suspends them for the duration .............. that creates some good questions from the public :lol:lol:lol:lol
lacroupade
05-02-2011, 16:35
wow, a hole in the fabric of the space/time continuum....:eek:
:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol:lol
no I was simply oberving that this thread appeared for a moment to have reverted to its original purpose...how the **** did that happen?:eek:
standards are slipping.....:doh
no because you broke the law that aplied at time,the police have obviously aplied to council and had road reclassified,now if you park there your car will be towed as being a terroist threat (or even a health hazard lol) our local police have knocked down the old court and built a justice centre to save money,the court,probation,register of births,job centre youth service all used to be in the same place as it is now only difference being theyve closed the crown at warwick after speng £10mill on repairs and moved it to leamington lol
lacroupade
05-02-2011, 16:35
whats the biggest drawback in the jungle, according to Ray Mears?
Deleted account DD
05-02-2011, 16:36
no I was simply oberving that this thread appeared for a moment to have reverted to its original purpose...how the **** did that happen?:eek:
standards are slipping.....:doh
I stand corrected.......right , hijack.......... clear throat............
Cant believe they want to measure how straight bananas are before they sell them , Im outraged :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad: :mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::banghead
Deleted account DD
05-02-2011, 16:37
bloody hell how spooky is that I hadnt seen jaces post before I posted about bananas :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
lacroupade
05-02-2011, 16:41
bloody hell how spooky is that I hadnt seen jaces post before I posted about bananas :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
maybe you're both just sadly predictable? :lol:lol:lol:lol
why do I always miss the excitement? :(
Its got to be the 1st time in my 2 years on here that the "off topic" posts have been deleted :rolleyes:
(RIP) PLANK
05-02-2011, 19:32
Unlikely ;) but you didnt need me to tell you that.
We do an op now and then on the A19, emergency layby has double yellows. HA or whoever suspends them for the duration .............. that creates some good questions from the public :lol:lol:lol:lol
my point was, that when laws change, previous occurrences don't matter no retrospective prosecutions or compensation and why should the prisoners and the vote be any different?
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Thomas-the-Terrano2
06-02-2011, 00:28
Its got to be the 1st time in my 2 years on here that the "off topic" posts have been deleted :rolleyes:
stick around there may well be more.
maybe membership deletions too,
formal warnings already pm'ed.
everyone can find enemies or a conflict situation very easily , sometimes without trying , but its a lot harder to find and keep friends , this forum is amazing and unique , surely its in everyones best interests to keep it that way and avoid potential conflicts ? :thumb2
solarman216
06-02-2011, 00:41
everyone can find enemies or a conflict situation very easily , sometimes without trying , but its a lot harder to find and keep friends , this forum is amazing and unique , surely its in everyones best interests to keep it that way and avoid potential conflicts ? :thumb2
Well said that man, Rick
Thomas-the-Terrano2
06-02-2011, 00:55
well if we all try to mod our selves, thinking before typing
we can stick to enjoying our trucks and peripheral interests
which is why we are all here.
if i wanted politics i'd join a suitable forum, and then not
gripe about trucks lol
solarman216
06-02-2011, 00:57
well if we all try to mod our selves, thinking before typing
we can stick to enjoying our trucks and peripheral interests
which is why we are all here.
if i wanted politics i'd join a suitable forum, and then not
gripe about trucks lol
Agreed, only light hearted political stuff, and it is interesting to cover other subjects, it enriches the brain but lets not get too heavy, enjoy, Rick
threatening pms from a mod with his own personal problems being vented on others then getting his mate to delete it aint what i call clever,why dont people grow a backbone and say to person they dont agree with seems a logical situation to me contact memebr by pm if no good escalate your problem to a mod who can then go to bat if needed! no one has said anything ive been upset by but nothing anoys me more than an abuse of power!
extreme-4x4
06-02-2011, 12:47
threatening pms from a mod with his own personal problems being vented on others then getting his mate to delete it aint what i call clever,why dont people grow a backbone and say to person they dont agree with seems a logical situation to me contact memebr by pm if no good escalate your problem to a mod who can then go to bat if needed! no one has said anything ive been upset by but nothing anoys me more than an abuse of power!
back bone you want you got it , plenty have been upset by comments made here by you jace others warned have decided to pack it in so far.
threatening pms from a mod giving you a final warning. that you still ignored
and suggesting my personal problems with another member has any relevance to my or anyone elses moderating ability . especially as you do not know the facts about our issues and you could have only heard one side of the story, and im not about to discuss my issues with other member here on this forum.
that is the point everyone was trying to make in recent threads that we let run to get a point across. unless you know the facts you are not in a position to judge people or situations. we as mods can only act on what is here on the forum thats why we watch everything and base our decisions on the facts on the forum alone.
everyone was warned not just you. tezzer was adz was plank... everyone .
it was not one sided everyone was asked nicely to stop posting threads that could cause problems and despite terry getting the hump he was the first to stop and i thought saw the problem we had . others got final warnings,, and threads deleted and they seem to have finally got the message.... but jace you just dont get it. EVERYONE WAS ASKED TO STOP POTENTIALLY UPSETTING THREADS.
and guess what your still going on . no one wants members to leave, no one wanted to censor people or prevent threads running for grown up debate . but it just got silly so we had to put a hold on it so it could calm down a bit. no one wants to kick people off the forum .
you have had your final warning, you should be deleted . im trying very hard to get this message over to you . any more and its very public now so . if you disapear / deleted everyone will know you had a fair chance to drop it .
end of.
lets hope you remain a member and just give it a rest lets get back to nissan, 4x4's and fun stuff ay
no i have done nothing wrong,nors plank adz,tezzer etc you better go censor david cammeron as he seems to agree with most of the stuff people got on there high horse about!,im awaiting bats response as when he started the rival forum to this it was because we had no fredom to do stuf we werent even allowed to post pictures let alone swear! bat came in and changed all that yet seems you want to take us back to dark ages bat even posted in one threads half naked girl in face mask if thats ok whats wrong with anything any of the "chosen ones" youve listed,so go pick on someone with less backbone than me buddy coz i aint done nowt wrong and dont apreciate sad little men whove got power abusing it!
by the way that offensive thread was deleted ages ago and all forgotten about,couldnt even remember what it was i wanted to tell plank to prove a point the other day,i was gutted!
all youve done is re stoke the fire by draggin it all back up well done!
id also be gratefull if youd direct me to my latest outrages thread,i cant seem to find it?
lacroupade
06-02-2011, 13:55
My very 'umble opinion is that, this being an adult site for use by adults, the only time threads should be deleted is if someone raises a formal and justifiable complaint about the content thereof.
The name of the forum (Pub Thread) is a bit of a clue....I've seen no conversation here that hasn't taken place in my local, and the joy of having a mixed membership is that theres always someone to jump in and tear a strip off anyone they think has overstepped the mark....its happens on every "controversial" thread, and in my view, is an excellent opportunity for some sort of 'education'.
I've said it before, but even people who you may think have expressed extreme views have always had some personal experience that colours their judgement. I mean I've had first hand knowledge of reverse racism of a sort that would have me shooting in the streets if it was me it was happening to, but it was outside my geography so I could afford to ignore it eventually, so people shouldn't be so quick to judge...but by all means argue your point.
Suppressing debate of the sort we've seen is invariably a bad idea whatever you think, and I'm sure most people would agree, including all of those engaged in it.
And if Bat wants to break peoples contract thats fine, its his website.
i dont think bat would he took over this site to change it make it easier/less restrictive no disrepect to mav bats got better it skills so can let us do more so i dont see him shutting peoples acounts itd be a bit hipercritical if he did!
Deleted account DD
06-02-2011, 16:17
Getting totally pissed off with this political correctness, ive got rights antagonism.
I would suggest paul is bang on with the clues in the name. If all we talked about was trucks jeeezzzzz this would be a dull site.
However there is a fine line and i think the mods on here tread it very well (and im no yes man)
Youve got to judge the drift of a topic or the lead by "would any reasonable person be offended or upset by this" The mods are the "reasonable person" if they say yes then the answer is yes.
Thats the structure of society be it a forum or a nation.
Im thick skinned so not bothered but tbh but there have been posts and individuals comments which would have been well justified receiving complaints, and many of them would have been worthy of further action.
Ive no desire to be a mod but if i was theres one or two threads that would have been history by my button for the wellbeing of the site on the whole.
Not my opinion, fact based on the law which could get you anything from words of advice to a stretch.
Even worse a civil complaint or action could get the site closed down. Unlikely but far from impossible.
Think about it.
its the same old flipping story isnt it. Just like a real pub "discussion" theres ALWAYS someone thats had too much to drink with an over infalted opinion, and its usually them that get man handled out the back door.
i find its best to just get along, keep the opinions yes, but keep them under control, well considered and appropriate, and dont just mouth off.
YET ANOTHER THREAD hijacked with these silly arguments. Why am I even posting this? I know why......
Deleted account DD
06-02-2011, 16:24
Nowww.............back on topic...........
Something struck me yesterday after id switched the computer off.
When you vote, you vote for the area you live in, so where would the jailbirds be voting for? where the prison is located? could cause massive problems. or where they are allegedly from and never bothered registering previously?
Could cause some odd results
actually, thats a bloody good point.
think about it, the biggest prisons would mean better results for the local party, wouldnt it? or at least the odds have just gone up...could that be a factor in this decision to give them rights perhaps? I think its very underhanded if so.
maybe but from whats i can see seems one mod has took umpphh/fell out with a few of his ol chums,this has nowt to do with me exept when posts critiscing a descion dissapeer it gets my goat if you have a problem face it dont delete stuff,had enough of that before bat took over i dont wanna go back to old days and to get a shitty pm days after the awful upsetting threads long gone an when im offline p's me off.
next thread i start will be a copy of a mr d cameroons speech from other day if its ok for international stage its good enough for here!
argghh but its about the right to vote and yes to stop starnge results register to home town be a nightmare to adminster one person could influence/buy votes then theres transfer to different prison etc etc be a nightmare!
makeitfit
06-02-2011, 16:46
Haven't had the energy to read all this bull of late but with regards prisoners votes I have the following comment:
Why not start with new prisoners going in having the "right" to vote in their normal home area.
That way there'd be no benefits from some BNP type trying to hijack votes from one prison.
The numbers of prisoners in relation to their home area voters will be very insignificant and therefore have virtually no effect on the local vote anyway.
I still dont think they should have a vote mind :p
now ive thought about the admin this gonna take and poss arguments that will ensugh itd be cheaper to bung em £150 each!
makeitfit
06-02-2011, 16:52
now ive thought about the admin this gonna take and poss arguments that will ensugh itd be cheaper to bung em £150 each!
That's what I said at the start :doh
However people can do postal votes now anyway, so why would it be any more difficult to let the crims do it too?:nenau
your locked away at 8pm for nighty night in a redditch prison say,7am door opens for brekie and your told pack yer kit moving to liverpool in an hour,no ifs no buts your going so imagine tying to track people to make sure they get there forms,(mails bunged under the door they think your at so long as it vagly resembles your name!)
Deleted account DD
06-02-2011, 17:10
or alternatively remove all of those problems and dont let them vote :augie
(RIP) PLANK
06-02-2011, 17:14
or alternatively remove all of those problems and dont let them vote :augie
seems reasonable, but we might not have that option! :nenau
if we left the eu wed be richer and be in charge of our own country again! and if daved an chums wasnt so good at his job theyd be no prisoners to worry about!
(RIP) PLANK
06-02-2011, 17:29
if we left the eu wed be richer and be in charge of our own country again! and if daved an chums wasnt so good at his job theyd be no prisoners to worry about!
who knows? Not me :augie
Thomas-the-Terrano2
06-02-2011, 18:44
maybe but from whats i can see seems one mod has took umpphh/fell out with a few of his ol chums,this has nowt to do with me exept when posts critiscing a descion dissapeer it gets my goat if you have a problem face it dont delete stuff,had enough of that before bat took over i dont wanna go back to old days and to get a shitty pm days after the awful upsetting threads long gone an when im offline p's me off.
next thread i start will be a copy of a mr d cameroons speech from other day if its ok for international stage its good enough for here!
i only took out of thread what shouldnt have been there in first place, cos it seems mods
too are human and type before they think. what went was private and should never have
been in public domain, isnt now, end of.
it wasnt something i did without thought, cos first thought was to delete the whole thread
but i saw doing so as unfair and hevy handed to the genuine debate that had been hijacked.
lots of threads get of track, and come back, in even get split or merged.
the misisng posts are stored ini the mod area, for the record.
just as its all forgotten about along comes a spider lol! ill leave it to bat his decisions the one that counts an he has acess to alsorts no doubt!
Have a read of this (http://nissan4x4ownersclub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11735)...... I'm sure it is pretty unequivocal :thumb2
missed point bat nothing racist was posted much of it tamer than what a mr d cameron said the other day,its about a mod getting another mod to do his dirty work because he was copin a bit of flack in public!
i only took out of thread what shouldnt have been there in first place, cos it seems mods
too are human and type before they think. what went was private and should never have
been in public domain, isnt now, end of.
it wasnt something i did without thought, cos first thought was to delete the whole thread
but i saw doing so as unfair and hevy handed to the genuine debate that had been hijacked.
lots of threads get of track, and come back, in even get split or merged.
the misisng posts are stored ini the mod area, for the record.
his bloody life storys avalible mrs left him selling cars house,daughters boyfreind etc etc so how can he winge about another person pulling him up on sommat!
Deleted account DD
06-02-2011, 20:08
Dunno about deleting but maybe this thread because of the way its gone should be locked and preserved as a memorial to ................. **** all :augie
stick around there may well be more.
maybe membership deletions too,
formal warnings already pm'ed.
Go ahead if thats how you feel but its not your site & you don't have the rights to say & i quote.!
"maybe membership deletions too".! YOU CAN'T.!
threatening pms from a mod with his own personal problems being vented on others then getting his mate to delete it aint what i call clever,why dont people grow a backbone and say to person they dont agree with seems a logical situation to me contact memebr by pm if no good escalate your problem to a mod who can then go to bat if needed! no one has said anything ive been upset by but nothing anoys me more than an abuse of power!
:thumbs :clap :bow
My very 'umble opinion is that, this being an adult site for use by adults, the only time threads should be deleted is if someone raises a formal and justifiable complaint about the content thereof.
The name of the forum (Pub Thread) is a bit of a clue....I've seen no conversation here that hasn't taken place in my local, and the joy of having a mixed membership is that theres always someone to jump in and tear a strip off anyone they think has overstepped the mark....its happens on every "controversial" thread, and in my view, is an excellent opportunity for some sort of 'education'.
I've said it before, but even people who you may think have expressed extreme views have always had some personal experience that colours their judgement. I mean I've had first hand knowledge of reverse racism of a sort that would have me shooting in the streets if it was me it was happening to, but it was outside my geography so I could afford to ignore it eventually, so people shouldn't be so quick to judge...but by all means argue your point.
Suppressing debate of the sort we've seen is invariably a bad idea whatever you think, and I'm sure most people would agree, including all of those engaged in it.
And if Bat wants to break peoples contract thats fine, its his website.
:thumbs :clap :bow
Getting totally pissed off with this political correctness, ive got rights antagonism.
I would suggest paul is bang on with the clues in the name. If all we talked about was trucks jeeezzzzz this would be a dull site.
However there is a fine line and i think the mods on here tread it very well (and im no yes man)
Youve got to judge the drift of a topic or the lead by "would any reasonable person be offended or upset by this" The mods are the "reasonable person" if they say yes then the answer is yes.
Thats the structure of society be it a forum or a nation.
Im thick skinned so not bothered but tbh but there have been posts and individuals comments which would have been well justified receiving complaints, and many of them would have been worthy of further action.
Ive no desire to be a mod but if i was theres one or two threads that would have been history by my button for the wellbeing of the site on the whole.
Not my opinion, fact based on the law which could get you anything from words of advice to a stretch.
Even worse a civil complaint or action could get the site closed down. Unlikely but far from impossible.
Think about it.
:thumbs :clap :bow
Now remeber people... DON'T GO OFF TOPIC, the forum obviously wants to move backwards & be over & heavily moderated again :(
lacroupade
06-02-2011, 21:16
elected mods?
agitator :)
agitator :)
crocodile :nenau
lacroupade
06-02-2011, 21:20
crocodile :nenau
You've been watching too much "Swamp People" mate :lol
im almost certain that every member of this forum wants it to move forwards and not backwards , but .... in order to do that we must work together as a team , we arent children and we know what is acceptable and what isnt .
lacroupade
06-02-2011, 21:24
im almost certain that every member of this forum wants it to move forwards and not backwards , but .... in order to do that we must work together as a team , we arent children and we know what is acceptable and what isnt .
yeah and Swamp People isn't. All that rotten bait meat makes me sick :nono
yeah and Swamp People isn't. All that rotten bait meat makes me sick :nono
Shrek :nenau :augie :lol
whos gonna be fiona then!
lacroupade
06-02-2011, 21:36
whos gonna be fiona then!
I thought you meant my flat-chested fantasy from the Antiques Roadshow...:lol
:augie
http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&source=imghp&biw=1280&bih=655&q=fiona&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=g10&aql=&oq=
:lol
lacroupade
06-02-2011, 21:44
ok princess fiona lol!
then there was Fiona Richmond, my dad told me about her :augie
then there was Fiona Richmond, my dad told me about her :augie
http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&source=imghp&biw=1280&bih=655&q=fiona+richmond&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=
:augie :lol
We're going right off topic here :lol
lacroupade
06-02-2011, 21:47
http://www.google.co.uk/images?hl=en&source=imghp&biw=1280&bih=655&q=fiona+richmond&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=
:augie :lol
We're going right off topic here :lol
that was a blast from the past, it threw up Mary Millington as a 'related search'...my dad remembers her too! :augie
I hope you've got 'Safe Search' off? :lol
horrible tits on that!
Its his dad :augie what do you expect :lol
Thomas-the-Terrano2
06-02-2011, 22:31
elected mods?
err how d'you think i got that position, hacking the site?
on subject how about elected, proposed and seconded members?
Adz, no it isnt my site, but i know a man that can, presume you didnt
get my last pm or scroll down site map to see theres an area for
mods to discuss site policy and procedure?
Jace this isnt about Col's life story and even if it was it has no bearing
on Adz bringing it up, or making public a matter that should be private
I suggest everyone else can see that and has let it go, why does it
bother you that something that didnt involve you, was removed for good
of site, not that anyone would know seeing how it keeps being renewed.
ok ill go get several people to elect me a mod an ill discuss it with the secret handshake brigade!
i dont give a stuff about cols life or if hes hanging from a rope not my problem my gripes with your (im presuming) over moderation by removing posts,colins a big boy able to defend himself nothing got said that was realy terrible no one was gonna pop round and axe down his door! if it was personal the silly sods put his whole marital break up and day to day blog of his kids and there boyfreinds lifes on here just go to members list click his name read it an weep i have!.
so once again youve reopend a closed subject everyone was quite happy chatting about some ol bints tits and you popped up on about your pals life again,im forced to respond drag it all back up bet you feel a tit now!
Adz, no it isnt my site, but i know a man that can, presume you didnt
get my last pm or scroll down site map to see theres an area for
mods to discuss site policy and procedure?
Jace this isnt about Col's life story and even if it was it has no bearing
on Adz bringing it up, or making public a matter that should be private
Then perhaps Colin shouldn't post his life story on here.!
As said in the Mod section, if you don't want me as a mod or a member fair enough.
YOU don't know where certain people are coming from with regards to Colin.!
His 5hit on at least 4 people on here that gave him help & support so we have reason to be pi55ed off.!
Deleted account DD
06-02-2011, 22:49
If col has dumped on people its up to them to take it up with him.
Its nothing at all to do with pete being gobsmacked at prisoners getting the vote!
This keeps dying a death then veiled subversive threats and comment issued.
Come clean, slug it out - pm or mods forum.
Even create an i think your a bastard thread in there and go for it.
If i was looking in on this site and i saw the exchanges particularly (and not taking dies here) between 2 mods id think what a pack of ****ers and keep my ten quid.
Fortunately we know its not really usually like that :thumb2
This is one of those things where its going to rumble on unless dealt with and people will probably leave in a hissy fit or get booted.
Trust me I know, i got booted off one for calling a crooked cop an errrrr crooked cop ;) (long story)
So come on please get it sorted or bin it :nenau
If col has dumped on people its up to them to take it up with him.
Its nothing at all to do with pete being gobsmacked at prisoners getting the vote!
This keeps dying a death then veiled subversive threats and comment issued.
Come clean, slug it out - pm or mods forum.
Even create an i think your a bastard thread in there and go for it.
If i was looking in on this site and i saw the exchanges particularly (and not taking dies here) between 2 mods id think what a pack of ****ers and keep my ten quid.
Fortunately we know its not really usually like that :thumb2
This is one of those things where its going to rumble on unless dealt with and people will probably leave in a hissy fit or get booted.
Trust me I know, i got booted off one for calling a crooked cop an errrrr crooked cop ;) (long story)
So come on please get it sorted or bin it :nenau
I totally agree with :thumbs
But . . .
It can finish where it started ( if the posts hadn't of been deleted, so it would make sense )
& if it goes anywhere else it will just get closed / locked or deleted...
Deleted account DD
06-02-2011, 22:59
No it still makes sense, i had a good read through today when it had been edited ( i was wondering if id get a pm or if any of my junk had gone :augie) What it shows is a thread on prisoners votes/smattering of political comment but a domestic entwined with specific details removed :thumb2
it does look bad but is not weighted in any direction. imho thats a good thing (balanced i mean) because this is not the thread to sort out why youve fallen out. thats been well established and even if it was the right place, it doesnt sort anything , just keeps repeating "we're not friends anymore) :thumbs
(RIP) PLANK
06-02-2011, 23:03
for what it's worth!
I think if one of our close knit group feels the need to discuss thing close to their heart and in return get the support they need, thats OK with me:thumb2
This should have no bearing on their decisions as a Moderator, at the end of the day Mod's are members too :thumb2
I don't think we have any mods who shouldn't be mods, but it seems we have a small contingent of 'wannabe mods' who really, really shouldn't be :thumbs
[QUOTE=PLANK;133009]for what it's worth!
I think if one of our close knit group feels the need to discuss thing close to their heart and in return get the support they need, thats OK with me:thumb2
true, but not in open forum, it should be done in private, not that i give a toss now though.
i agree with plank and i think that there should be a thread for people to have their say without being hung drawn n quarterd for it got a problem ai:thumb2r it
I don't think we have any mods who shouldn't be mods, but it seems we have a small contingent of 'wannabe mods' who really, really shouldn't be :thumbs
Well please let us know who...
I'm sure I'm top of the firing list...
I won't be silenced on something that should be known & I'm getting close to starting a new thread in the South East section where at the moment only i & Bat21 can moderate & tell you all why this has come to a boil with myself & extreme-4x4.!
But...
It involves 3 other members & unless i have there consent to spill the beans then i have to be careful.!
(RIP) PLANK
06-02-2011, 23:15
we all have, or will have if you haven't yet, times in our life when we are in need of support and don't make the best of decisions, that's the time when we need friends and not criticism.
The difficulty is knowing when that time is :thumb2
Many of us have had 'words' and we still rub along alright, for heavens sake, I even speak to Tezzer :lol so lets just let it all go now and move on :thumb2
spill the beans
bit off topic but i do like grated cheese on beans on toast :D :augie
bit off topic but i do like grated cheese on beans on toast :D :augie
take a read of the article below .... wot do you think ? ...... im fuming
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...=feeds-newsxml
(RIP) PLANK
06-02-2011, 23:18
Well please let us know who...
I'm sure I'm top of the firing list...
I won't be silenced on something that should be known & I'm getting close to starting a new thread in the South East section where at the moment only i & Bat21 can moderate & tell you all why this has come to a boil with myself & extreme-4x4.!
But...
It involves 3 other members & unless i have there consent to spill the beans then i have to be careful.!
read what i said again mate, no your not on the list, nor any other actual Mods, and it is a very short list :thumb2
take a read of the article below .... wot do you think ? ...... im fuming
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...=feeds-newsxml
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The page you have requested does not exist or is no longer available.
Deleted account DD
06-02-2011, 23:18
i agree with plank and i think that there should be a thread for people to have their say without being hung drawn n quarterd for it got a problem ai:thumb2r it
when it gets personal its not a matter for public viewing.
on one hand thats called voyeurism and definitely not what this site is about.
on the other hand its unfair. i dont want to know whats gone before, i will deal as i see with folk and i dont want and dont need my judgement colouring.
i will find out what i want to know. you dont have to be hercule poirot to have a good idea whats gone on here
enough is enough
thats it r1cho the straw that broke cammels back delete this thread lol! but you cant complain its personal if your lifes laid bare all over the forum,then to go get another nmod to delete si putting that mod in firing line for your inaquidecies
extreme-4x4
07-02-2011, 00:47
Then perhaps Colin shouldn't post his life story on here.!
As said in the Mod section, if you don't want me as a mod or a member fair enough.
YOU don't know where certain people are coming from with regards to Colin.!
His 5hit on at least 4 people on here that gave him help & support so we have reason to be pi55ed off.!
and you adam have shit on friends and another member or 2 here , and plenty of other stuff.... so go on lets get it all out in the open .
what did i do to you? and i'll say what you did to me and my family
and you adam have shit on friends and another member or 2 here , and plenty of other stuff.... so go on lets get it all out in the open .
what did i do to you? and i'll say what you did to me and my family
ok colin, yes lets get it out in the open so members can see what you are really like, i bought wheels and tyres off you and paid you for them, never got all of them did i, then i bought a scalectrix off you, paid for it, when i set it up part of the track was missing, and i had to wait for my money back, so that is taking the piss in my book, then on here you picked on me because i had ago at you via pm, it seems to me colin you have a chip on your shoulder, (more like a bag full ) as i said yesterday i had respect for you but that has gone mate, your a piss taker, there you go out in the open, now what have i done to you NOTHING.
as the original thread says `its bluddie ridiculous`, this thread was started as a thread about prisoners being able to vote, not being able to vote and then sueing for it, then it went off topic, then we got it back on topic, now its off topic AGAIN, don't get me wrong everyone is entitled to an opinion or answer to an argument but now it's getting silly, this is the sort of thing i tell my kids off for 'but dad last week he did this and you said that she couldn't do that`, please can we get things into perspective, stop the fighting/argueing and all get on whats in the past is in the past, no ammount of argueing will stop it from happening because its already happened, let bygones be bygones and get on with life........semi rant over :D
and you adam have shit on friends and another member or 2 here , and plenty of other stuff.... so go on lets get it all out in the open .
what did i do to you? and i'll say what you did to me and my family
Ok
Selling the Mk1 which I had already paid for but couldn't do much when it was my mate who bout it.!
As he is an understanding FRIEND we done it up & split the sale money.!
Which I think broke even on what you owed...
I was just waiting from then on to get even...
I decided to get you back for doing me out of money by making out i was into Louise.
She fell for it hook line & sinker.
She called it off before I did as i decided that it was wrong of me to use her to get back to you.!
I WILL STRESS THIS WAS ONLY A 1 WEEK TEXT AFFAIR
&
LYNN KNOWS ABOUT & UNDERSTANDS
Beside that do you really think I would go for a young girl that's had more sti's than I've had hot dinners & is always doing drugs...
Jo taking her to get sorted...
I told you never to cross me & I hold a grudge till it's settled.!
You are a very selfish, self centred lonely little man.!
You had help & support from 3 other members on here who you also 5hit on.!
I'm NOT naming them but you know who they are.!
You was offered lots of work & didn't bother...
You had a 1999 4x4 & gave nothing in return...
You take months to pay back what you owe...
You make everybody feel sorry for you...
Its always the other persons fault NOT yours... WRONG...
You want everything for nothing...
You owe Jo mortgage money...
I can say so much more & write pages if you want.!
extreme-4x4
07-02-2011, 01:35
ok colin, yes lets get it out in the open so members can see what you are really like, i bought wheels and tyres off you and paid you for them, never got all of them did i, then i bought a scalectrix off you, paid for it, when i set it up part of the track was missing, and i had to wait for my money back, so that is taking the piss in my book, then on here you picked on me because i had ago at you via pm, it seems to me colin you have a chip on your shoulder, (more like a bag full ) as i said yesterday i had respect for you but that has gone mate, your a piss taker, there you go out in the open, now what have i done to you NOTHING.
your wheels 2 of them are still waiting for your collection from the farm in sussex as agreed. and been reminded about. so am i by my dad who complains about you not collecting them for over a year
scalextrix i sold a set to you and later you said it was incomplete . i took your word on that and refunded the money twice if i remember correct you finally received envelope marked number 2 . and you even got to keepp the nnearlly new scalextric set with drift cars and maybe 2 bits of track mssing. for free.
so i actually gave you a scalextric set for nothing ..... christ you dont need to be carol vorderman to work that out
extreme-4x4
07-02-2011, 01:45
Ok
Selling the Mk1 which I had already paid for but couldn't do much when it was my mate who bout it.!
As he is an understanding FRIEND we done it up & split the sale money.!
Which I think broke even on what you owed...
I was just waiting from then on to get even... what a nice person you are then
I decided to get you back for doing me out of money by making out i was into Louise.
She fell for it hook line & sinker.
She called it off before I did as i decided that it was wrong of me to use her to get back to you.!
I WILL STRESS THIS WAS ONLY A 1 WEEK TEXT AFFAIR
&
LYNN KNOWS ABOUT & UNDERSTANDS
Beside that do you really think I would go for a young girl that's had more sti's than I've had hot dinners & is always doing drugs...
that sounds like your a very bitter little boy getting dumped
Jo taking her to get sorted... you sure
I told you never to cross me & I hold a grudge till it's settled.! clearlly
You are a very selfish, self centred lonely little man.!
You had help & support from 3 other members on here who you also 5hit on.!
I'm NOT naming them but you know who they are.!
You was offered lots of work & didn't bother... with who ?
You had a 1999 4x4 & gave nothing in return... paid back im afraid . check your facts
You take months to pay back what you owe...
You make everybody feel sorry for you...
Its always the other persons fault NOT yours... WRONG...
You want everything for nothing...
You owe Jo mortgage money... who says ?
I can say so much more & write pages if you want.!
and thats what you get for letting someone stay in your home with your family , let them into your life. well thanks adam that also explains the nasty facebook messages my family have been receiving .... from you no doubt
your wheels 2 of them are still waiting for your collection from the farm in sussex as agreed. and been reminded about. so am i by my dad who complains about you not collecting them for over a year
scalextrix i sold a set to you and later you said it was incomplete . i took your word on that and refunded the money twice if i remember correct you finally received envelope marked number 2 . and you even got to keepp the nnearlly new scalextric set with drift cars and maybe 2 bits of track mssing. for free.
so i actually gave you a scalextric set for nothing ..... christ you dont need to be carol vorderman to work that out
everytime i tried to make a meet, there was always something going on, not my fault, the scalextric, the track was missing, never got the so called number 1 envelope, i collected the scalextric from you, when i got home parts of track was missing and the set was not complete anyway, i gave it to a young lad who already had the same track, if i sold something to you i would make sure it was all there and complete before i sent it to you, and i paid straight away, it is not the sort of thing you do to so called mates is it. ??
extreme-4x4
07-02-2011, 01:48
everytime i tried to make a meet, there was always something going on, not my fault, the scalextric, the track was missing, never got the so called number 1 envelope, i collected the scalextric from you, when i got home parts of track was missing and the set was not complete anyway, i gave it to a young lad who already had the same track, if i sold something to you i would make sure it was all there and complete before i sent it to you, and i paid straight away, it is not the sort of thing you do to so called mates is it. ??
but this is init terry ?
and thats what you get for letting someone stay in your home with your family , let them into your life. well thanks adam that also explains the nasty facebook messages my family have been receiving .... from you no doubt
Don't have a Facebook account.!
Had 1 for about 6 months a year or so ago but never used it so closed it.!
But you talk about facts... :rolleyes:
The FACT is you have screwed the people that WERE there for you but WON'T be anymore.!
My "Facts" have come straight from the horses mouth... Between 3 & 6 months to pay it back...
The "FACT" is that when quoting "FACT's" you are NO "daved".!
You seem to forget the "Real FACT's".!
This is a FACT.!
It is YOUR fault & nobody else's that you failed your wife & children & screwed up a 2nd.!
All you do is scrounge off people & want for nothing.!
I'm sick of it.! I'm sick of you & what you do to others & don't want any other member to be screwed by you.!
That's why i'm happy to put it on the forum...
Until your life stops revolving around you & your truck you will never have a life, family or friends.!
I'd like to feel sorry for you but i can't feel sorry for somebody who has bought it on them selves.!
To sum up what i think of you...
Self centred / selfish / sly / coward / shallow / thoughtless...
I bid you farewell...
but this is init terry ?
what do you mean by that?? to be honest with you, the main reason im pi**ed with you is the way you conducted yourself regarding the thread / posts the other day, i don't care what you say you was wrong in the way you pm'd me. it was obvious you had it in for me, you said, seeing as im in a BAD MOOD, take this as your final warning, well let bat21 decide, i have pm'd him, i can tell you Colin, you have over stepped the mark with me mate, so take it how you like because i don't give a to** about you now.
Well folks...
The question is...
Will Colin delete these post's himself...
Or wil TTTT delete it for him...
Find out in the next thrilling episode
extreme-4x4
07-02-2011, 02:14
im happy for them to stay on here . let everyone see just what people on here are capable of .
let the members decide who they think is the nasty one ay
given enough rope . they soon hang themselves
can i just say.............................soooooooo off topic again..........we went through all this then got it back on topic just to get back to the problems again, life throws problems at you, you get on with it, yea sure share ya problems ona forum and 9 times out of 10 u will get sympathy, a kind word or a prayer that makes u feel better, not long ago i was posting about my ill daughter and got loads of support, from the same people that are now arguing with each other, it makes me sad, a place like this we should all be like family, and get along, we all have knowledge to share and in the bad times all give a shoulder to be leant on
im happy for them to stay on here . let everyone see just what people on here are capable of .
let the members decide who they think is the nasty one ay
given enough rope . they soon hang themselves
I notice you can't defend the TRUTH & FACT's.! :rolleyes:
I'll post the rope if you like :augie
Deleted account DD
07-02-2011, 02:17
Well folks...
The question is...
Will Colin delete these post's himself...
Or wil TTTT delete it for him...
Find out in the next thrilling episode
That is just antagonistic. Twisting the knife you didnt even have to stick in.
Especially shouting in red.
Point of the last few posts is its all now out in the open.
Those involved have had their say.
No one can post any more vieled threats, no more subterfuge. Its all inone thread and if people dont like it, dont look in.
We can all make our minds up and move on, unless someone butts in and winds them up to create more.
and you adam have shit on friends and another member or 2 here , and plenty of other stuff.... so go on lets get it all out in the open .
what did i do to you? and i'll say what you did to me and my family
well colin did ask for it, :nenau
That is just antagonistic. Twisting the knife you didnt even have to stick in.
Especially shouting in red.
Point of the last few posts is its all now out in the open.
Those involved have had their say.
No one can post any more vieled threats, no more subterfuge. Its all inone thread and if people dont like it, dont look in.
We can all make our minds up and move on, unless someone butts in and winds them up to create more.
no daved, im finished, he rubbed me up the wrong way, iv'e had my say and i wash my hands of him. my rant is over and i wont reply any more. i promise.
Quote:
Originally Posted by extreme-4x4
and you adam have shit on friends and another member or 2 here , and plenty of other stuff.... so go on lets get it all out in the open .
tezzer : - what did i do to you? and i'll say what you did to me and my family
well colin did ask for it,
__________________
So what have I done then Colin & who have I 5hit on :rolleyes:
extreme-4x4
07-02-2011, 02:22
yeah sure did . but learnt loads
That is just antagonistic. Twisting the knife you didnt even have to stick in.
Especially shouting in red.
Point of the last few posts is its all now out in the open.
Those involved have had their say.
No one can post any more vieled threats, no more subterfuge. Its all inone thread and if people dont like it, dont look in.
We can all make our minds up and move on, unless someone butts in and winds them up to create more.
daved i wasnt shouting i just chose red to write it in
and many people have had a say so i did to
as for involving me iam already involved if you re read the comments
Deleted account DD
07-02-2011, 02:25
no daved, im finished, he rubbed me up the wrong way, iv'e had my say and i wash my hands of him. my rant is over and i wont reply any more. i promise.
hey its not for me to tell you what to do, i was just a bit surprised when the extra antagonism came in :eek: plus of course red is quite a hit on the eyeballs this time in the morning :D:D
This was allinevitably going to go public and now it has so people will make their own minds up and it shouldnt be a problem :thumbs
hey its not for me to tell you what to do, i was just a bit surprised when the extra antagonism came in :eek: plus of course red is quite a hit on the eyeballs this time in the morning :D:D
This was allinevitably going to go public and now it has so people will make their own minds up and it shouldnt be a problem :thumbs
couldn't agree more. :thumb2
rather than extra mods , maybe its a better idea to read this and keep personal arguments out of the main forum , unless its mods then it should be discussed in the mods section , just my view and you may or may not agree with it , such is life .
Dealing with Troublesome Users
Can I block posts, emails and messages from specific users?
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Through your User Control Panel: User CP, Settings & Options, Edit Ignore List. Then, type their name into the empty text box and click 'Okay'.
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rather than extra mods , maybe its a better idea to read this and keep personal arguments out of the main forum , unless its mods then it should be discussed in the mods section , just my view and you may or may not agree with it , such is life .
Dealing with Troublesome Users
Can I block posts, emails and messages from specific users?
If there are particular members that bother you and you do not want to see their posts or receive Private Messages and Emails from them, then you can add these members to your 'Ignore List'. There are several ways to do this:
Through your User Control Panel: User CP, Settings & Options, Edit Ignore List. Then, type their name into the empty text box and click 'Okay'.
What if I see something offensive?
You will find 'Report' links in many places throughout the board. These links allow you to alert the board staff to anything which you find to be offensive, objectionable or illegal.
in particular , i draw your attention to the last paragraph , so really , do we need any more mods when the guidance is there allready ? :nenau
er.....there appears to be a quarell going on now.
Deleted account DD
07-02-2011, 09:03
er.....there appears to be a quarell going on now.
id like to think its the dying gusts of a storm :D
makeitfit
07-02-2011, 10:28
id like to think its the dying gusts of a storm :D
Hopefully not the lull before it :augie
Colin/Adz, your conduct in this thread reads like something a primary school child would be proud of.... truly unbelievable.
A public forum is not the place to be having this debate.
I have sent you both a PM.
(RIP) PLANK
07-02-2011, 11:34
Colin/Adz, your conduct in this thread reads like something a primary school child would be proud of.... truly unbelievable.
A public forum is not the place to be having this debate.
I have sent you both a PM.
It has certainly gone to far, maybe it's time to lock it and move on :thumb2
If it were down to me i would seriously consider deleting the whole thing.
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