my new flyer

[R1cho]

well i spent some time lastnight designing a new flyer for my business, i was wondring if the kind folk on here would give me some feedback on it, good ot bad.

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs785.ash1/167538_10150107940107649_793747648_6035402_6538754 _n.jpg

[lacroupade]

Typos as well?

[R1cho]

Typos as well?

yea lol

[makeitfit]

The bird with the roses looks to be in a state of arousal as she has a bit of a fondle :naughty

[R1cho]

The bird with the roses looks to be in a state of arousal as she has a bit of a fondle :naughty

behave thats my sister lol

[lacroupade]

Initial response.

1. No 'e' in Portraits.

2. Use 'Architectural' instead of 'Buildings'

3. Centralise all the text in the bottom voucher section.

4. Not sure about the use of B&W/Sepia.....I'd have done the wedding flowers in a pastel-type colour and the bride in colour as well with maybe soft focus or something.

5. Really not sure about the 'Damien' kid with the beady blue eyes.....I see what you were doing but have you got something else you can do in B&W with colour isolated...? Maybe the flowers in the bride picture (leaving her in B&W)?

6. Font for your web/email is a bit dull?

Hope that helps....sorry it sounds a it harsh though!:)

[(RIP) PLANK]

I think it looks a bit 'busy' maybe less fonts? :nenau

but always read my disclaimer before acting upon my advice :thumb2

[R1cho]

Really not sure about the 'Damien' kid with the beady blue eyes

thats my son lol, valid points though didn't even notice the typo lol that'll teach me to do stuff after a few strong shandys lol

[lacroupade]

Also use a family pet instead of a tigger?

And shadow on central wording is unnatural as it is, looks better dropped lower left or right....

and take a step back....what is it about that flyer that would make someone think "yeah, I'll use him instead of the dozens of others in Yellow Pages..."?

It doesn't say you're experienced, professional, stay for the whole event if necessary, highly competitive, high quality equipment etc..etc.. you see my point? You need a USP.

[makeitfit]

I now know she's your sister but a shot of her with eye's open would be good:augie
I've got loads of pics of the wife with her eyes closed but she wouldn't thank me to put them on a flyer :lol
No Luvgluv, stop it now, she was NOT in readers wives :wasntme

[lacroupade]

I now know she's your sister but a shot of her with eye's open would be good:augie
I've got loads of pics of the wife with her eyes closed but she wouldn't thank me to put them on a flyer :lol
No Luvgluv, stop it now, she was NOT in readers wives :wasntme

My mind is always on higher moral ground my son, not festering in the sewer.

Just send the URL...:naughty

[clivvy]

I agree with points made, looks good, but id reduce the different types on font used, stick to one, or two max. :thumb2

[R1cho]

any better?

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs260.snc6/180838_10150108493572649_793747648_6041476_4477328 _n.jpg

[4x4_Gav]

Right then R1cho - I get married next February and will need a photographer for the night only (around 4 hours).

Would you consider club discounts ;)

The venue is The Red Brick house near Edwinstowe.

[makeitfit]

any better?

http://a1.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs260.snc6/180838_10150108493572649_793747648_6041476_4477328 _n.jpg
It's getting there, here's my few points:
Pets sounds better than "Animals":sly
PBS IS a prof (not are)
No capital F in family.
Specialising in Potraits and Weddings. delete "photography" again in the same sentence.
Full stop after wedding.
Dump the http://
Keep at it :D
Might be worth a local tel no. too for those that "dont do" 0800

[R1cho]

gettin there lol

http://a7.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs036.snc6/166619_10150108524002649_793747648_6041861_6464204 _n.jpg

[Deleted account DD]

I reckon too much text squeezed in, I can see where youre coming from but punters wont be interested in it :nenau

How about something like:


"PBS is a traditional family ran business using only the very best equipment and materials to produce the very best photographs for you.
Our prices reflect the fact that premium quality work quality does not need to have a premium price tag.
Our costs start at £40 for a portrait session at our studio or £xxx in your own home for your convenience.
Please see our website xxxxxxxxxxxxx for full details and pricing structure or phone for a chat on 0800xxxxxxxxxx or xxxxxxxxmobilexxxxxxxxx"

:nenau;)

[briggie]

to be honest mate i lost interest once i saw all the text , perhaps a better idea is to put all the info on the rear of the flyer and concentrate on a attention grabbing front ..... just my humble opinion , not a criticism , my beloved sheila works for a large newspaper /advertising group

[R1cho]

I reckon too much text squeezed in, I can see where youre coming from but punters wont be interested in it :nenau

How about something like:


"PBS is a traditional family ran business using only the very best equipment and materials to produce the very best photographs for you.
Our prices reflect the fact that premium quality work quality does not need to have a premium price tag.
Our costs start at £40 for a portrait session at our studio or £xxx in your own home for your convenience.
Please see our website xxxxxxxxxxxxx for full details and pricing structure or phone for a chat on 0800xxxxxxxxxx or xxxxxxxxmobilexxxxxxxxx"

:nenau;)

i like that i might nick it lol :augie

[Deleted account DD]

i like that i might nick it lol :augie

help yourself, not claiming its even good but if you format it say centre under the larger heading it gives an intro with out waffling ( i hope :lol )

Good luck anyway :thumb2

[R1cho]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs061.snc6/167152_10150108546142649_793747648_6042200_4052416 _n.jpg

[Adz]

Bit late on this & it is getting there :rolleyes: :thumbs

Less text

4 pics - i.e. - baby / toddler - wedding - building - pet

Don't print your prices as it will help competition under cut but entice phone calls. :nenau :confused:

[lacroupade]

Thats a LOT better ! :thumb2

Just two small observations.....your 'costs' are not the same thing as your 'prices'.

secondly, just a weeny bit too much non-colour going on still....play around with, say, putting the lad diagonally opposite the bride amd maybe having the critter in colour?

Other than that, its nearly there.....nice one.

[Deleted account DD]

Thats a LOT better ! :thumb2

Just two small observations.....your 'costs' are not the same thing as your 'prices'.

.

good point :thumb2 thats cos my mind is on costs at the mo, been trying to get some docs published :doh:doh:doh:doh:doh:doh

[Deleted account DD]

Just a thought, would the text be better at the bottom under the photos? :nenau

[makeitfit]

Why not do an entry price on your flyer for say £20, but when people ring for that service you tell them that's the Pet portrait price:sly
Then sell up from there:naughty
Also do specialised flyers for as above, PETS, and stick them in your local vets and pet food shops etc.
Then do one for custom car clubs etc. you get the drift:thumbs
Digitising old videos of weddings etc

[lacroupade]

Why not do an entry price on your flyer for say £20, but when people ring for that service you tell them that's the Pet portrait price:sly
Then sell up from there:naughty
Also do specialised flyers for as above, PETS, and stick them in your local vets and pet food shops etc.
Then do one for custom car clubs etc. you get the drift:thumbs
Digitising old videos of weddings etc

...and porn. Don't forget porn.

or errrr...."modelling portfolios" I think they are often euphemistically called :augie

[R1cho]

:D

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs282.snc6/181064_10150108577802649_793747648_6042713_6976216 _n.jpg

[makeitfit]

The bottom left pic needs some crows flying about :lol

[briggie]

wheres the porn piccies ? :sly:naughty

[R1cho]

The bottom left pic needs some crows flying about :lol

or maybe this http://www.f9x.co.uk/games/style_emoticons/default/vampire.gif lol

[makeitfit]

or maybe this http://www.f9x.co.uk/games/style_emoticons/default/vampire.gif lol
Nice :lol
Print it :thumbs

[R1cho]

Nice :lol
Print it :thumbs

might look a tad unprofessional :lol

[lacroupade]

Nice :lol
Print it :thumbs

Not yet!

1. Its 'family run' not 'family ran'.

2. First sentence you've said 'very best' twice. Suggest you say something like 'to produce perfect photographs every time'?

In my past life I used to produce proposal documents for deals worth ten of millions and I learned very quickly that you can write extremely competent documents that get ignored because they are poorly spelt or presented. Conversely, the biggest load of bullsh1t looks good when properly spelt and formatted.

So time and trouble at this stage will always pay dividends.

PS what about some kind of guarantee? If they are unhappy you either refund or shoot again? But of course they get no prints until they approve proofs....?

[makeitfit]

I meant print the bat not the flyer:augie

[R1cho]

better? :nenau

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs907.ash1/181504_10150108801937649_793747648_6045122_3846691 _n.jpg

[Adz]

Looks good but can or should you leave the prices out :nenau :confused:

[briggie]

wheres the porno pics ? :naughty

[R1cho]

Looks good but can or should you leave the prices out :nenau :confused:

i think its better to have the price there, that way people know what it costs, saves them phoneing my 0800 number costing me money just for them to say no lol

[Adz]

i think its better to have the price there, that way people know what it costs, saves them phoneing my 0800 number costing me money just for them to say no lol

Yeah that makes sense :thumbs

Is it a CALLSURE or BT 0800 number :confused:

[R1cho]

Yeah that makes sense :thumbs

Is it a CALLSURE or BT 0800 number :confused:

http://www.numbergroup.com/content/Home.html

[Adz]

http://www.numbergroup.com/content/Home.html

:thumbs

[lacroupade]

i think its better to have the price there, that way people know what it costs, saves them phoneing my 0800 number costing me money just for them to say no lol

n..e..a..r..l..y.. there :lol You can keep on ad infinitum, but this is a window to your business, so its worth getting right.

You've still got a bit of repetition in there ("our prices") so I've rehashed the words a bit....I don't think you can have too many so if you need to slightly resize the pics, hey-ho. Hope they are of use. Oh and make sure you bold or italic the URL and phone numbers OK?

Finally, and this is just personal preference, thought about applying an infra-red effect to the church piccy?

PS - if anyone moans about the 'Because' at the start of a sentence, journalistic licence applies to marketing copy OK?! :lol

Heres the words (and i WOULD make it two paras, easier on the eye):

We are a traditional, family-run business, specialising in portraiture and weddings. We work from our bespoke studio or at your own home or location, producing formal or informal photography to suit your requirements. Because we know how important these fleeting memories are, we use only the best equipment and printing techniques to deliver perfect photographs every time.

Our prices reflect the fact that premium quality work doesn't need to command premium prices; packages start from just £40 for a portrait session at our studio or only £50 in your home. Please visit our website www.pbsphotography.co.uk for more details and to see some of our work, or feel free to call for an informal chat on 0800 310 1082 or 07920 011941.

[R1cho]

i need a holiday :lol

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash1/hs901.ash1/180908_10150108821522649_793747648_6045295_2584122 _n.jpg

[clivvy]

I think Lacroupades advice is bloody brilliant mate, coming along nicely.

[lacroupade]

i need a holiday :lol


well you got to earn the money to pay for it mate, so get on with it LOL:lol

But seriously.....this will be the only thing people see of your business.....get the bloody thing right, doesn't matter how long it takes. And that includes punctuation, spelling, layout and all sorts...... I think its there with the above changes personally, but thats just me. Id spend the £40 on a session if it were me. GOOD LUCK

[Sedger]

Massively improved from the first draft thanx to comments from others.
Don't use more than one font or family if fonts.
Don't use the word "bespoke" - not really needed.


Flyers need to be designed to suit the circumstances and purpose.

If this is a casual flyer to attract business - the sort you'll leave in wedding venues - there's probably too much text. You need to demonstrate flair and vision - to get that initial "bloody hell they look good" reaction. So I'd say less text and more flair.

If its a brochure to explain prices etc then that's another issue. Probably not enuff room if you keep all of the pictures.

How's your web site? Needs to continue the look and feel of the flyer.

Hope this is helpful. Sent in the spirit of support.

[R1cho]

I would just like to say a big thankyou to everyone for their help and advice on this, especially to lacroupade who seems to know an awful lot about this type of thing :bow, it looks and reads so much better now :clap :thumb2 :D

[lacroupade]

Massively improved from the first draft thanx to comments from others.
Don't use more than one font or family if fonts.
Don't use the word "bespoke" - not really needed.


Flyers need to be designed to suit the circumstances and purpose.

If this is a casual flyer to attract business - the sort you'll leave in wedding venues - there's probably too much text. You need to demonstrate flair and vision - to get that initial "bloody hell they look good" reaction. So I'd say less text and more flair.

If its a brochure to explain prices etc then that's another issue. Probably not enuff room if you keep all of the pictures.

How's your web site? Needs to continue the look and feel of the flyer.

Hope this is helpful. Sent in the spirit of support.

I know where you're coming from but in this case I'm going to disagree.

I've assumed this flyer is a 'catch-all' or should be so it needs those words.

If we were talking 'wow' photography (and no offence intended Ricoh!!) I'd agree, the work would tell the story but in the nicest way this is good, competent work but not 'wow'.

[R1cho]

Don't use the word "bespoke" - not really needed.



I was thinking of changing that to HOME BASED being as my studio is a converted garage lol

[lacroupade]

I was thinking of changing that to HOME BASED being as my studio is a converted garage lol

Ah.

Facts do have a tendency to get in the way don't they LMAO!:thumb2

But hey, a studio is a studio, don't knock it. Let the punters decide cos once they are there the jobs nearly done isn't it. Don't be putting them off before you start!

[R1cho]

I know where you're coming from but in this case I'm going to disagree.

I've assumed this flyer is a 'catch-all' or should be so it needs those words.

If we were talking 'wow' photography (and no offence intended Ricoh!!) I'd agree, the work would tell the story but in the nicest way this is good, competent work but not 'wow'.

no offence taken, i only really do portrait and wedding work, cant really capture much wow with that unless the person in front of the camera wants to do a bit of work aswell, and with portraits they mainly just stand still with that fixed smile :doh and weddings they just want to get the ceremony over with then go get pi$$ed lol

[lacroupade]

no offence taken, i only really do portrait and wedding work, cant really capture much wow with that unless the person in front of the camera wants to do a bit of work aswell, and with portraits they mainly just stand still with that fixed smile :doh and weddings they just want to get the ceremony over with then go get pi$$ed lol

exactly but its about playing to your strengths isn't it.

What was the purpose of this flyer? Is it general or just for dropping at weddings?

Worth leafleting a few streets and seeing what happens.

[R1cho]

Worth leafleting a few streets and seeing what happens.

Thats what the flyer is mainly for, also have been given permission to leave some in a few churches and the registry office

[BigBlack]

Sorry to butt in late, but I would either 'centre' or 'justify' your text at the top! just to give it a bit more symmetrical look

:thumb2

[R1cho]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs282.snc6/181064_10150108855482649_793747648_6045595_4526227 _n.jpg

[lacroupade]

I'd buy that :thumb2

Print the little ba5tard before you get any more changes.:lol

Did you dump the infra-red idea? Just thought it supported the digital manipulation offering...

[R1cho]

I'd buy that :thumb2

Print the little ba5tard before you get any more changes.:lol

Did you dump the infra-red idea? Just thought it supported the digital manipulation offering...

I thought the flowers showed that idea aswell as the weddings :)

[Adz]

By joe you've got it :clap :thumbs

[lacroupade]

I thought the flowers showed that idea aswell as the weddings :)

true..its your flyer but well done, looking good.:thumb2

[makeitfit]

Aw, I thought there was going to be a bat in the graveyard :o
I'll have to draw one on myself now :doh
Good luck with the flyer:thumbs
You can get some stonking deals to put your flyer in the local papers too:rolleyes:

[Deleted account DD]

Thats looking really good but perhaps still a bit heavy on the reading :nenau

Something maybe to look at would be ditch the sentence that mentions "from our bespoke studio or at your own home or location"

youre duplicating that later when you say "packages start from......" and you mention studio and home which kills two birds with one stone because it fits in the price and mentions location which give the simple reader like me loads of info in less words :thumb2

[(RIP) PLANK]

the new one is looking good! :thumb2

[lacroupade]

Thats looking really good but perhaps still a bit heavy on the reading :nenau

Something maybe to look at would be ditch the sentence that mentions "from our bespoke studio or at your own home or location"

youre duplicating that later when you say "packages start from......" and you mention studio and home which kills two birds with one stone because it fits in the price and mentions location which give the simple reader like me loads of info in less words :thumb2

shut it. :lol

[(RIP) PLANK]

it's true, you have to stop somewhere or you'll be editing forever :thumb2

[Deleted account DD]

I write plans for a living at the mo. Local ones taken from national guidance. Hundreds upon hundreds of pages. But at the beginning of each one I make and put in place a brightly coloured flow chart featuring key points. Guess which one our well educated, top of the pile leaders follow? Not the big un, not even always the smaller local written word. Yup.........the A4 Picture version. Quick and easy to follow.

sooo...........

Thing is at the moment you have to read yours thoroughly or more than once to get the message. Thats not the ethos of a flyer. Its a quick read , quick inform. If someone needs a photographer they may make the effort, if youre hoping for the spontaneous job or a result from "ohhhh that looks interesting" you may not hit the mark.

Id also be tempted to bin the "formal or informal" bit too. When most people want a picture doing that phrase is completely irrelevant , they just want a picture so let your pictures on the flyer do the talking, max pics min words. If they dont like those pics which are there anyway it doesnt matter if you promise to do it for free and kiss their hairy ####'s , theyll not follow up.

Id also drop the "very best equipment" bit because if you go to the far end of a fart thats challenging and somone may think agfa paper is better than kodak or canon better than olympus, you wont have a problem but theyll have a negative thought, those need avoiding if you want the sale.

Use something innocuous like " we use proffesional standard equipment and materials" or use "premium" again because then the sequence of reading tells them firstly its all premium, then reminds them, then reinforces it so the key word theyll walk away with is "premium" after a very brief read.

Love the "we know....." phrase. Its dead cheesy but doesnt half hit the mark :thumb2:thumb2:clap:clap:clap:clap


Ive just spent the whole day editing a massive document (how to evacuate a town centre :doh:doh:doh) so thats it from me, off to the beach.


Good luck :thumbs

[Deleted account DD]

shut it. :lol

No shant

[R1cho]

http://www.f9x.co.uk/games/style_emoticons/default/swoon.gif

[Deleted account DD]

it's true, you have to stop somewhere or you'll be editing forever :thumb2

Not necessarily until some key points are sorted :thumb2

His living depends on getting the sale, artistic effect (which I am crap at so wont comment lol) is only half the battle.

Got to look at how to get and hold attention. That flyer would not make me buy at the moment, too wordy, I want key points like the header, thats bang on imho :(

[R1cho]

hows this then http://www.f9x.co.uk/games/style_emoticons/default/rofl.gif

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs278.snc6/180610_10150108932757649_793747648_6046673_3459790 _n.jpg

[(RIP) PLANK]

hows this then http://www.f9x.co.uk/games/style_emoticons/default/rofl.gif

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs278.snc6/180610_10150108932757649_793747648_6046673_3459790 _n.jpg

sorted :thumb2

[lacroupade]

I write plans for a living at the mo. Local ones taken from national guidance. Hundreds upon hundreds of pages. But at the beginning of each one I make and put in place a brightly coloured flow chart featuring key points. Guess which one our well educated, top of the pile leaders follow? Not the big un, not even always the smaller local written word. Yup.........the A4 Picture version. Quick and easy to follow.

sooo...........

Thing is at the moment you have to read yours thoroughly or more than once to get the message. Thats not the ethos of a flyer. Its a quick read , quick inform. If someone needs a photographer they may make the effort, if youre hoping for the spontaneous job or a result from "ohhhh that looks interesting" you may not hit the mark.

Id also be tempted to bin the "formal or informal" bit too. When most people want a picture doing that phrase is completely irrelevant , they just want a picture so let your pictures on the flyer do the talking, max pics min words. If they dont like those pics which are there anyway it doesnt matter if you promise to do it for free and kiss their hairy ####'s , theyll not follow up.

Id also drop the "very best equipment" bit because if you go to the far end of a fart thats challenging and somone may think agfa paper is better than kodak or canon better than olympus, you wont have a problem but theyll have a negative thought, those need avoiding if you want the sale.

Use something innocuous like " we use proffesional standard equipment and materials" or use "premium" again because then the sequence of reading tells them firstly its all premium, then reminds them, then reinforces it so the key word theyll walk away with is "premium" after a very brief read.

Love the "we know....." phrase. Its dead cheesy but doesnt half hit the mark :thumb2:thumb2:clap:clap:clap:clap


Ive just spent the whole day editing a massive document (how to evacuate a town centre :doh:doh:doh) so thats it from me, off to the beach.


Good luck :thumbs

But thats what senior management is all about; knowing nothing about nothing but sounding like thats not the case, hence the "give me a one-pager".

This version will please most of the people most of the time IMHO.

[lacroupade]

Not necessarily until some key points are sorted :thumb2

His living depends on getting the sale, artistic effect (which I am crap at so wont comment lol) is only half the battle.

Got to look at how to get and hold attention. That flyer would not make me buy at the moment, too wordy, I want key points like the header, thats bang on imho :(

and actually its nothing to do with the quality of the flyer.

its what he does with it, i.e. letterboxing it, leaving it at all venues, etc..etc.., so it can say anything really. The price would attract me, then I'd be happy to see he's got good kit, doesn't just do stiff informal stuff and so on....couple of pics and a handful of words WILL NOT HACK IT!

[Deleted account DD]

couple of pics and a handful of words WILL NOT HACK IT!


Thats why no ones suggested that :doh:doh:doh:doh

[Deleted account DD]

and actually its nothing to do with the quality of the flyer.



absolute rubbish :thumb2

pictures, interesting header etc gets them in.

concise presentation of the message keeps them

contact details involves them

theres more to what he is trying to achieve than a cutesy leaflet ;)

and thats before theyre distributed.

[Deleted account DD]

But thats what senior management is all about; knowing nothing about nothing but sounding like thats not the case, hence the "give me a one-pager".




nope, not remotely at the level the document Im refering to is shoved in. They need more than bullshit. The information im presenting to them as an advisor enables them to be a decision maker. Its that clear.

They need a summary to explain in a few moments what myself and others talk about from the big book.

The principle came out of the lockerbie enquiry amongst others :thumb2

The result of their decisions may help them stay out of clink or stay in a job on one selfish level ;)

One of the most interesting roles ive done in the job :thumb2and its a larf :lol:lol:lol

[Deleted account DD]

hows this then http://www.f9x.co.uk/games/style_emoticons/default/rofl.gif

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs278.snc6/180610_10150108932757649_793747648_6046673_3459790 _n.jpg


probably not enough words ;) :lol:lol:lol:lol:lol

[makeitfit]

I think I'm sideing with the old bill here :eek:
I'll also put my spanner in the works at this point :augie
Header as is :thumbs Sub headings as is :thumbs
Then 1st contact no.
THEN the pics.
Then a revised blurb along the lines of Daved's idea.

Also while I'm here, what size will the flyer be?
As that may throw it all to cock again :augie

I used flyers to great effect when I had my surf shop, and quite honestly you just need "simple" and "to the point" stuff and pref a loss leader price in there.
For example £20 start point for a "snap" of your pussy :D:sly:lol
Then sell them up from there once they've called :naughty

Marketing next then :cool:

[R1cho]

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs266.snc6/179440_10150109029387649_793747648_6047653_1847614 _n.jpg

[briggie]

http://a8.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/hs266.snc6/179440_10150109029387649_793747648_6047653_1847614 _n.jpg

:thumbs:thumb2:D:jump:grouphug

[R1cho]

i take it u like that one then briggie lol

[makeitfit]

Right then, now those bossy boots are watching east benders, I think you've got a result there mate:D
That's more what I'd expect from a throw out flyer:thumbs
Just delete the word website before the www etc:)
It's obviously to do with photo do-daas and basic price listed :D

[R1cho]

well now i have about 3 million designs to choose from lol, time to get on with making the website, should be fun as its also nearly beer oclock :D

[jace]

bloody hell dont ask an opinion on the website design bats server will crash lol
the way i see it get couple fit birds with there tits out say male required for porn shoot £50 admin fee drop few hundred down rugby club.....job done ...red hot phone!

[R1cho]

bloody hell dont ask an opinion on the website design bats server will crash lol


:jesterbg

I think i'll be fine with the web design side of it, built enough of them over the years

[Deleted account DD]

I reckon thats bang on :clap:thumb2:thumb2:thumb2:thumb2:thumb2

but.........................................:lol:l ol:lol:lol:lol:lol

[R1cho]

but.........................................

:eek:

[Deleted account DD]

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;):thumb2

[R1cho]

well thanks to everyones great advice, ideas and input i think i now have 2 great flyers, one for just a handout flyer and one to put in venues where people have time to sit down for a quick read, thankyou all for your help :clap

[lacroupade]

well thanks to everyones great advice, ideas and input i think i now have 2 great flyers, one for just a handout flyer and one to put in venues where people have time to sit down for a quick read, thankyou all for your help :clap

One last point; when you get any eqnuiries, I assume you ask where they found you so you can assess how useful these things are? Good luck with things!:thumb2

[extreme-4x4]

cant you have a pic of a church without the grave stones . maybe a shot of a nice old church would show architectural stuff without the morbid shot. and id do the church in colour too , as it could look haunted again if b&w

[lacroupade]

cant you have a pic of a church without the grave stones . maybe a shot of a nice old church would show architectural stuff without the morbid shot. and id do the church in colour too , as it could look haunted again if b&w

Whooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo!:kissy

[R1cho]

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[lacroupade]

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Take not notice, he's in love with Yvette Fielding :eek:

[jace]

could always be the scouser hes got a thing for,equal rights an all that!

[lacroupade]

could always be the scouser hes got a thing for,equal rights an all that!

Derek Acorah is living proof of life after death LMAO

[jace]

i fookin hate the programme but my mrs loves it,and lads we all now whos in charge so ive seen plenty of them whilst muttering its the feckin cammera man or its not fookin real and oh ffs how can they be so dum! worrying his name just slips off end of yer tongue like that mate !

[lacroupade]

i fookin hate the programme but my mrs loves it,and lads we all now whos in charge so ive seen plenty of them whilst muttering its the feckin cammera man or its not fookin real and oh ffs how can they be so dum! worrying his name just slips off end of yer tongue like that mate !

Cos my missus glues herself to it as well, but mainly cos of his car-crash TV...I even read his autobiography for a laugh and its as disjointed as he is ffs!