Rip Off Fuel Stations

[clivvy]

Hi All,

starting this thread for Lauriash, who sent me this email to copy into this thread, see what you think:


> Please see what you think and pass it on if you agree with it.
>
> We are hitting £129.9 a litre in some areas now and soon we will be
> faced with paying £1.50 per litre. So Philip Hollsworth offered this
> good idea:
>
> This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy petrol on a certain day
> campaign' that was going around last April or May! The oil companies
> just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt
> ourselves by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to
> us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea,
> has come up with a plan that can really work.
>
> Please read it and join in!
>
> Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to
> think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take aggressive
> action to teach them that BUYERS - not sellers control the market
> place. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers
> need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of
> petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing
> their petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the
> idea:
>
> For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two
> biggest oil companies (which now are one) i.e. ESSO and BP.
>
>
> If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce
> their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will
> have to follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally
> millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!!
>
> Now, don't wimp out on me at this point... keep reading and I'll
> explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!
>
> I am sending this note to a lot of people. If all of you send it to
> at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)....and those 300 send it to at least
> ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on. By the time the message
> reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE
> MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on
> to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted!
> If it goes one level further, you guessed it.....
>
> THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!
>
> Again, all YOU have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all (and
> not buy at ESSO/BP). How long would all that take? If each of us sends
> this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300
> MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!!
> Acting together we can make a difference. If this makes sense to you,
> please pass this message on.
>
> PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES It's easy to make this
> happen. Just forward this email, and buy your petrol at
> Shell,Asda,Tesco, Sainsburys, Morrisons, Jet etc. i.e. Boycott BP and
> Esso

[R1cho]

i have been sent this email before, infact the last time i was sent it the prices went up lol

[clivvy]

yeah it does seem out of date, but i suppose you can take this email, and change the diesel prices to 132.9p lol///

[illy]

So if you buy from Tesco, Morrison's, or Asda because they are cheapest who supplies their fuel?

illy

[Peasgood]

A bit hypocritical to have such things on a 4x4 forum.
There are plenty of vehicles out there that will do 50mpg rather than the probable 25mpg average of a 4x4. (yes some do more, but some cars do more than 50mpg too)
It would make much more sense if everyone went out and bought one of those vehicles that do better mpg, effectively halving the price of fuel!

[harlowmaverick]

its not hypocritical at all!!!
the email is about the price of fuel and how we are all getting ripped off even if we have a car that does 100mpg, we are still paying through the nose for that litre of fuel!!!

it is not just the fuel companies, its also the goverment that the majority of people through time has voted in at various points in history.

the tax on fuel is astronomical!!!


i say, revolt!

REVOLUTION IS ON THE CARDS IN MY HOUSEHOLD!

[Peasgood]

You can be as revolting as you like in your own household :D
Looking at the news I seriously hope there isn't a revolution here.
I agree fuel is very expensive and that a great deal of it is tax, but where else is the money going to come from?
I suppose we could make all the services pay to use, such as road tolls, pay for health care, education from primary school up, scrap all benefits for unemployed, disabled, elderly etc. Stop all housing benefits, childcare, tax credits and the like.
Do all that and more and we would be able to run about in whatever we like paying pennies for fuel.
What worries me a lot more than the price of fuel is the price of food. At the moment it is rediculously cheap, priced at (or even below in some cases) cost of production. Food is so cheap that as a nation we supposedly throw 20% away.
Once the world food supply starts heading towards India and China (as it definitely will) instead of here, prices will rocket. Then there will be revolution maybe.
There is a saying "every society is only three meals away from revolution".

[jace]

were paying vat on fuel tax lol how does that comput then !

[Peasgood]

Yep, got to admit that one is a bit of a stinger.

[clivvy]

the money should come from what we are already putting in. so much of our tax is wasted, into a black hole seemingly. its that problem that needs sorting as well.

[lacroupade]

You can be as revolting as you like in your own household :D
Looking at the news I seriously hope there isn't a revolution here.
I agree fuel is very expensive and that a great deal of it is tax, but where else is the money going to come from?
I suppose we could make all the services pay to use, such as road tolls, pay for health care, education from primary school up, scrap all benefits for unemployed, disabled, elderly etc. Stop all housing benefits, childcare, tax credits and the like.
Do all that and more and we would be able to run about in whatever we like paying pennies for fuel.
What worries me a lot more than the price of fuel is the price of food. At the moment it is rediculously cheap, priced at (or even below in some cases) cost of production. Food is so cheap that as a nation we supposedly throw 20% away.
Once the world food supply starts heading towards India and China (as it definitely will) instead of here, prices will rocket. Then there will be revolution maybe.
There is a saying "every society is only three meals away from revolution".

...with a BIG FAT ANNUAL tax on those leeching ba5tard bankers. :doh

One bank alone has paid out NINE BILLION POUNDS in BONUSES this year, during a time of long term 0.5% base rate?

And the people who need mortgages and small business loans can't get them. Why? Because the rich are using what money is available to buy up all the fire sale assets cheaply.

[4x4_Gav]

I agree something needs to be done....

If you look at what the government and fuel companies are doing it is sickening, for example they will raise the fuel price by 6p a litre for x amount of time, then drop it by 2p to make us feel better then raise it by another 6p.

This is simply to get us "used" to paying these prices in the hope we dont notice it so much, if this continue over the course of the next 5 years or so just think, we could all be paying £2 a litre and think its normal.

SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE BY SOMEONE!!

Lets clog up the M1 with Nissan Terrano's for a whole day :) Viva La revolution!!!

[glenbo]

A bit hypocritical to have such things on a 4x4 forum.
There are plenty of vehicles out there that will do 50mpg rather than the probable 25mpg average of a 4x4. (yes some do more, but some cars do more than 50mpg too)
It would make much more sense if everyone went out and bought one of those vehicles that do better mpg, effectively halving the price of fuel!
but those vechiles arnt big enough to tow anything:augie

[lacroupade]

...with a BIG FAT ANNUAL tax on those leeching ba5tard bankers. :doh

One bank alone has paid out NINE BILLION POUNDS in BONUSES this year, during a time of long term 0.5% base rate?

And the people who need mortgages and small business loans can't get them. Why? Because the rich are using what money is available to buy up all the fire sale assets cheaply.

As Glenbo says, not only will they not tow, and in the case of many of us who live in remote countryside where winter weather is a major problem, won't function as a proper 4x4, but its the cost of changing.

The many thousands of pounds that it would cost to get into a recent fuel-efficient motor would buy enough diesel to keep you going for the next 20 years or so :(

[Peasgood]

My lads Astra van does 50+mpg. He paid £350 for it, not many thousands.
I do live in remote countryside and am a farmer so the 4x4 is very handy, but I could live without it. I managed without for 40 odd years.
Besides all that, while out today I looked at the prices on Eso and BP garages (as in OP) and they weren't much if any different to the supermarkets.
If everyone decided to stop buying from supermarkets I would be much more in favour. They are the ones that have squeezed nearly every other business out of the market place.

[lacroupade]

My lads Astra van does 50+mpg. He paid £350 for it, not many thousands.
I do live in remote countryside and am a farmer so the 4x4 is very handy, but I could live without it. I managed without for 40 odd years.
Besides all that, while out today I looked at the prices on Eso and BP garages (as in OP) and they weren't much if any different to the supermarkets.
If everyone decided to stop buying from supermarkets I would be much more in favour. They are the ones that have squeezed nearly every other business out of the market place.

Got to disagree with that....the local garage in Llandeilo, which charges around 10p above the average, is kicking off because Sainsburys are building a 24x7 supermarket with filling station, so finally in in this part of West Wales we can start getting fuel at reasonable prices - whoa thats a bit radical! If the petrol guy can't make a living then get another job or business, why the f**k should I subsidise him!!

In Oxfordshire, the only nationals that have reasonable prices are those situated close to supermarkets - theres a surprise - everywhere else they are ripping us off....heres the evidence....

http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/UK-Fuel-Prices-Soar-To-A-skynews-3856251710.html?x=0

[jace]

round here sainsburys monolise the trading est wont allow another supermarket,now fords foundrys gone morrisons are comming and on the old alko site were getting an aldi so hopefully a price war will ensue lol

[briggie]

type in your postcode and the site below tells you the cheapest ( and most expensive ) fuel prices in your area .

http://www.petrolprices.com/

[lacroupade]

type in your postcode and the site below tells you the cheapest ( and most expensive ) fuel prices in your area .

http://www.petrolprices.com/

comes out above average just as I'd expect.....we pay motorway prices most of the time in this neck of the woods....funny how we are only a few miles from the bloody refinery relative to the rest of the UK!:doh

[briggie]

by creating a free account, you can get e mails telling you of the cheapest garages in your area on a weekly basis if you want , i find it very usefull :thumb2

[makeitfit]

There's no way any boycott of BP or Esso or who ever will work. There's just too many people over the preverbial barrel who simply have to fill up to get work done to get paid to pay mortgage etc etc.
Any one day ban is just delays your next fill up:doh
I think a more home brew method is required, like alternative fuels:sly
I was talking to the guy I get my bio from and he said there's more and more oil burners going bio and it's getting really hard to find enough chip fat:augie
Two friends locally are now sourcing used oil to start making bio commercially:thumbs They plan to sell in smaller containers too making it easier for town folk to stor the stuff:)
Local LPG converter has just taken on another fitter too:rolleyes:
I'm still amazed at few on here use veggy or bio:nenau I'm saving 53p a litre at the mo, it's a no brainer surely:naughty

[lacroupade]

There's no way any boycott of BP or Esso or who ever will work. There's just too many people over the preverbial barrel who simply have to fill up to get work done to get paid to pay mortgage etc etc.
Any one day ban is just delays your next fill up:doh
I think a more home brew method is required, like alternative fuels:sly
I was talking to the guy I get my bio from and he said there's more and more oil burners going bio and it's getting really hard to find enough chip fat:augie
Two friends locally are now sourcing used oil to start making bio commercially:thumbs They plan to sell in smaller containers too making it easier for town folk to stor the stuff:)
Local LPG converter has just taken on another fitter too:rolleyes:
I'm still amazed at few on here use veggy or bio:nenau I'm saving 53p a litre at the mo, it's a no brainer surely:naughty

For me Pete, seriously, its just a fear of the witches homebrew these people use compared to a proper chemical process.....If your truck is still working in a few months time and your fuel seals havent dissolved I will be seriously encouraged....but like you say, with bus companies and so on jumping on the bandwagon the supply of WVO for the smaller processors is drying up fast, so I'd say enjoy it while you can....

[makeitfit]

I know what you mean :thumb2
So far so good though, grabing large amounts of wood :sly ooo er missus :lol
Been on it for about 18 months I think. Done the filter early on and again crimbo time.
Fingers crossed :D

[lacroupade]

I know what you mean :thumb2
So far so good though, grabing large amounts of wood :sly ooo er missus :lol
Been on it for about 18 months I think. Done the filter early on and again crimbo time.
Fingers crossed :D

I'm going down the rapeseed route as soon as I can escape from this tarts palace and sort things out LOL

[makeitfit]

I'm going down the rapeseed route as soon as I can escape from this tarts palace and sort things out LOL
Good choice :thumb2
There's a guy in north wales somewhere crushing his own.

[lacroupade]

Good choice :thumb2
There's a guy in north wales somewhere crushing his own.

with a depot in Carmarthen :naughty

[makeitfit]

with a depot in Carmarthen :naughty

That's him, but the depot in Carmarthen wouldn't supply large amounts last time I asked:doh

[lacroupade]

That's him, but the depot in Carmarthen wouldn't supply large amounts last time I asked:doh

nae bother....what was it, 25 litre drums?

[Kamsin]

The chief Exec at Opec 2 weeks ago, told the people its selling its oil too, to stop moaning at them for the price. I have to agree! the govenment makes more profit from selling fuel than the people that produce it. 58p for duty then 20% for Tax (Ps, thats 20% tax on the duty that they charged you as well) that adds up too 86p per Ltr right in to their pocket FOR NOTHING!

If they stop sending Billions of pound to other bloody contries all the time bailing them out and spent the money over here (The money that they take from us by the way) they would be able to lower the tax altogether.

We pay road tax, insurance and have to have an MOT to stay with in the law and we are only aloud to use 2,500 ltrs of cooking oil or we get done for fuel duty avoidence, How the hell can they charge you fuel duty avoidence if your NOT USING THE FUEL. Thats like you having bottled gas for your house and brithish gas sending you a bill cos your not using theirs, talk about stacking the deck!

Even as im typing this i can feel myself getting angry, so i think i will back away from the computer now:mad:

IMHO

[4x4_Gav]

I use Total Excellum Diesel at stupid pence per litre so makes no odds to me anymore lol...

[Kamsin]

I use Total Excellum Diesel at stupid pence per litre so makes no odds to me anymore lol...

You use what? never heard of it, but where can i get it.

[4x4_Gav]

Total garages - its like 135-140 a litre though

[lacroupade]

You use what? never heard of it, but where can i get it.

As Gav says, its Totals equivalent of BP Ultimate or Shells "whateverthefukitisicantremember".....:lol

[(RIP) PLANK]

type in your postcode and the site below tells you the cheapest ( and most expensive ) fuel prices in your area .

http://www.petrolprices.com/

according to the home page, the most expensive UK price is £1.46.9 that = £6.68.4 per gallon :eek: at 25 mpg's thats 27p per mile :eek:

[briggie]

i strongly suspect that due to the unrest in the middle east at present , fuel prices will rocket :(

[(RIP) PLANK]

any old excuse, when there is a sudden outbreak of peace, will the price go down?:augie

[briggie]

any old excuse, when there is a sudden outbreak of peace, will the price go down?:augie

sudden outbreak of peace ? :jesterbg , omg thats funnier than one of my jokes , but then most things are :augie:lol

[Deleted account DD]

we're hovering around £1.30 a litre here.

saw a bit of good justice yesterday, one of the worst profiteering garage sites in Middlesbrough went bust and after a short spell as a van sales site is now a block of flats :D:D:D

[(RIP) PLANK]

our local ASDA is holding out at £1.29.9 (£1.30 really) that "point nine" makes me laugh, next time you fill up stop on exactly 2 litres and see what you are really paying :eek:

Down Lacroupade's neck of the woods it was as high as £1.38.9 - shocking!

[lacroupade]

our local ASDA is holding out at £1.29.9 (£1.30 really) that "point nine" makes me laugh, next time you fill up stop on exactly 2 litres and see what you are really paying :eek:

Down Lacroupade's neck of the woods it was as high as £1.38.9 - shocking!

thats why I have two of the feckers parked outside and can't afford to go anywhere.....:(

[(RIP) PLANK]

i thought you were an SVO convert? :nenau

[lacroupade]

i thought you were an SVO convert? :nenau

can't a bloke plead a bit of poverty from time to time? I might have had a cheque in the post!

any road, I tend not to use much in winter - can you imagine the starting problems at -16C which is what we had for about three weeks not long ago? :(

[(RIP) PLANK]

can't a bloke plead a bit of poverty from time to time? I might have had a cheque in the post!

any road, I tend not to use much in winter - can you imagine the starting problems at -16C which is what we had for about three weeks not long ago? :(

that's why i haven't gone much over 50%, i came to Wales and back on about 80% and then I added some diesel just before home.

[lacroupade]

sounds perfect; much above 5c-8C and you're OK.:thumbs

[(RIP) PLANK]

sounds perfect; much above 5c-8C and you're OK.:thumbs

this morning at 4 degrees it sounded a bit rough, so ...

i went out in the truck instead :augie

[Deleted account DD]

Down Lacroupade's neck of the woods it was as high as £1.38.9 - shocking!

doesnt matter he's got loads of dosh ;)

I noticed out and about yesterday in rural N Yorks a couple of £1.38's

[lacroupade]

doesnt matter he's got loads of dosh ;)

I noticed out and about yesterday in rural N Yorks a couple of £1.38's

Bollox. I'm poor as a...

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[(RIP) PLANK]

that's very good, is that what they call a rebus?

[lacroupade]

that's very good, is that what they call a rebus?

no its a mouse from Peru actually....I didn't catch his name....:confused:

:lol:lol:lol

[(RIP) PLANK]

no its a mouse from Peru actually....I didn't catch his name....:confused:

:lol:lol:lol

it would be a good name for him though, Rebus the Peruvian mouse, very catchy :rolleyes:

[lacroupade]

it would be a good name for him though, Rebus the Peruvian mouse, very catchy :rolleyes:

I feel a book coming on....:doh

[(RIP) PLANK]

have you ever read the bible? no? then let me explain - chapter 1, Genesis :augie


one for Little England fans :lol

[felixthelogchopper]

In Burnham on Crouch in Essex there is a garage selling diesel at £1.45 a litre :eek: Don't think he is selling much though :naughty

[jace]

fuel price afects us in so many ways,if theyd the balls to drop price im sure the econemy would jump start!

[(RIP) PLANK]

In Burnham on Crouch in Essex there is a garage selling diesel at £1.45 a litre :eek: Don't think he is selling much though :naughty

i posted earlier, they reckon there is some close to £1.50, I'm too lazy to read the thread and find it again though now :lol

[makeitfit]

Just back from Manchester and now have 2000 litres of bio at 82p a litre :D
Cost about 55 quid to go and get it so I reckon a saving of about £1000 , nice :naughty

[(RIP) PLANK]

Just back from Manchester and now have 2000 litres of bio at 82p a litre :D
Cost about 55 quid to go and get it so I reckon a saving of about £1000 , nice :naughty

if fuel protests kick off next week and pump prices drop to 75p your gonna kick yourself :augie

[makeitfit]

if fuel protests kick off next week and pump prices drop to 75p your gonna kick yourself :augie
In your dreams :lol
I heard on the radio today on the way up there that due to the unrest out west, that oil barrel prices are now the highest ever :eek:
I'll be protesting but it wont do anything :doh

[(RIP) PLANK]

In your dreams :lol
I heard on the radio today on the way up there that due to the unrest out west, that oil barrel prices are now the highest ever :eek:
I'll be protesting but it wont do anything :doh

you're right there mate, there is no point, sky high prices are here to stay. I'm just jealous cause i haven't got your bio diesel :(

[makeitfit]

Well he's not far from you :sly
Give him a bell and get some quick sharp:thumbs
He said today he's having to bribe kebab shops now to get enough oil for demand :doh If you're quick you could get it at 85p our hassle him like us and wave cash in his face :naughty
Jamie bio 07501132919 :cool:

[(RIP) PLANK]

Well he's not far from you :sly
Give him a bell and get some quick sharp:thumbs
He said today he's having to bribe kebab shops now to get enough oil for demand :doh If you're quick you could get it at 85p our hassle him like us and wave cash in his face :naughty
Jamie bio 07501132919 :cool:

i haven't got the spare cash to buy in that sort of bulk, i've had a few exspenses this week :(

[makeitfit]

Get a few mates together and get 1000 it soon comes round again.
I do about a tank a week so you can see how quick the savings show :thumbs