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A new era of fuel protests gridlocking cities is on the cards with tax rises adding 3p per litre to the price of petrol.
Campaigners say haulage firms and private drivers will not take the increase lying down. They claim protests could bring the country to a standstill as they did a decade ago.
A cross-party group of MPs has also demanded fuel duty be cut, not put up.
Fuel duty has gone up by 0.76p a litre, and VAT has increased from 17.5% to 20%, adding to drivers' woes.
Together, they will mean about 3.5p per litre. Petrol is already at a record price, having reached 124.16p. That is up one seventh on this time last year.
Fuel duty to rise again in April
And it won't get any better for drivers. In April fuel duty will rise again and the long-term prospects for oil prices are not good – further tensions with Russia and possible war with Iran will mean petrol could become scarcer.
Ten years ago farmers and haulage firms joined forces to deliberately gridlock roads, causing food and fuel shortages that were even blamed for deaths in hospitals.
Now they have come together again to talk of restarting their action.
David Handley, who was involved in those protests, told The Daily Telegraph: "The cost of fuel which sparked the protests in 2000 pales in comparison to what it is now."
The Conservative MP for Morecambe and Lunesdale, David Morris, has signed an early day motion in the House of Commons which says: "Fuel price reductions will help the economy and give much needed respite to the hard-pressed haulage industry."
He added: "Something needs to be done to kick start the economy and cutting fuel duty would be one measure that would help."
'Fuel duty has to be reduced'
Kate Gibbs, director of communications for the Road Haulage Association, said: "We are seeing the price of fuel rocketing to unprecedented levels and there's a limit to how long these increases in duty can be borne by the road haulage industry.
"Fuel duty has to be reduced not increased, in order to go some way towards giving us a level playing field with the rest of Europe, who pay far lower costs."
The government has said that fuel duty is 10% lower in real terms than in 2000 and that hauliers can reclaim VAT paid on fuel.
extreme-4x4
08-01-2011, 00:21
wont happen .... thatcher removed your right to protest. with the council tax riots.....
deal with it :confused:
lol
wont happen , the government is concerned with raising money not cutting duty , you vote , a party or parties gets in ..... live with it
fuel duty is a easy way for the government to raise money , we either pay it or do without our vehicles ... same goes for road tax , vat increase etc..... easy money for the government
harlowmaverick
08-01-2011, 00:32
Time to stock pile that vegi oil then lol
Deleted account DD
08-01-2011, 00:37
There were the big protests , was that 2000?? , then a couple of years ago some more. The originals had a massive impact but the next lot just fizzled out even though the rhetoric was the same.
I reckon we will have some protests (we've got sites up here they like to chain themseves to the gates of :nenau ) but im not sure how big a scale theyll be on :confused:
i found it on my other 4x4 site, reading through it seems there is a group that are getting together to cause chaos in major cities, as for, live with it, deal with it, thats why we get kicked in the slabs, i bet if there was a demo and duty was lowered i bet you would soon be filling your tanks with the cheaper fuel wouldn't you, or would you rather pay the higher rate. walob, :nenau
i found it on my other 4x4 site, reading through it seems there is a group that are getting together to cause chaos in major cities, as for, live with it, deal with it, thats why we get kicked in the slabs, i bet if there was a demo and duty was lowered i bet you would soon be filling your tanks with the cheaper fuel wouldn't you, or would you rather pay the higher rate. walob, :nenau
what im saying tezzer is it wont happen , this government are more concerned with raising money than the effect on joe public
heres an idea what shape would this country be in if we all cashed in our tax and stoped using cars
or just plonk a electric engine in their
extreme-4x4
08-01-2011, 00:48
the uk is too well geared up for protests and demonstrations
if they cant get to the organizers they will come up with some soft arsed propaganda to unsettle the country. or smash it quickly with some hired bother boys kicking off at a fuel depot . just so the police can go in heavy handed
the trouble is and im quite genuine here the coppers that will have to police it , and stand there with missiles flying not knowing is in them acid. bleach petrol or worse . they are regular people after work with the same fuel to buy and the same food bills and taxes to pay.
its them i feel sorry for ... while the fu ck wits in parliament screw us ... AND THEM
for every copper that takes a kicking for them bastards (thieving bastards it turns out ) that is the biggest crime.
or .... we all eat baked beans and then stick a pipe up our bums to run our engines on methane :thumb2
well i'm gonna do what del boy did and buy my own oil rig
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i know the government need to raise money, and the motorist is mostly first in line, but if they want to raise money, start looking at the amount of benefits that go to these multi cultural families with god how many kids and some even send money to their extended family back home, all the multi million pound donations they to, i think £7 billion will be going to Ireland.
so why keep kicking the f**king motorists, even the insurance companies are taking the pi**, i feel sorry for the younger families, how are they going to manage, poxy country is going down hill fast.
extreme-4x4
08-01-2011, 01:01
i know the government need to raise money, and the motorist is mostly first in line, but if they want to raise money, start looking at the amount of benefits that go to these multi cultural families with god how many kids and some even send money to their extended family back home, all the multi million pound donations they to, i think £7 billion will be going to Ireland.
so why keep kicking the f**king motorists, even the insurance companies are taking the pi**, i feel sorry for the younger families, how are they going to manage, poxy country is going down hill fast.
too late mate it already did
so why keep kicking the f**king motorists
because the motorist is an easy target
Peasgood
08-01-2011, 01:09
We are loaning Ireland £7billion at a higher interest rate than we are borrowing the same money at. Makes quite clever business sense to me.
Get your facts right or just carry on thinking sending a load of ragheads home will get you paying less on your fuel.
so what's your problem peasgood??? and who mentioned people who wear cloth on their heads, not me, so you get your facts right before you post.
extreme-4x4
08-01-2011, 16:44
this fuel thing is all a simple case of supply and demand
you need it so they will sell it to you... at there rates, and thats just how it is NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE THAT
protest all you want, but joe public still needs fuel , to go to work to pay there bills. so unless you chuck your mortgages in and go on the dole in rented accommodation, where the gov will pay your rent for a short period .
we best get used to the idea fuel is going to cost shit loads £1.37 a litre i paid today in mid wales .
went there today to price a job and ooooph the woman there was fit fit fit
lacroupade
08-01-2011, 16:48
this fuel thing is all a simple case of supply and demand
you need it so they will sell it to you... at there rates, and thats just how it is NOTHING IS GOING TO CHANGE THAT
protest all you want, but joe public still needs fuel , to go to work to pay there bills. so unless you chuck your mortgages in and go on the dole in rented accommodation, where the gov will pay your rent for a short period .
we best get used to the idea fuel is going to cost shit loads £1.37 a litre i paid today in mid wales .
went there today to price a job and ooooph the woman there was fit fit fit
but its not the oil companies rates is it, its the governments.....:(
(RIP) PLANK
08-01-2011, 16:59
i don't see what the raationship of the UK to Eire has to do with fuel prices, or the existance of "multi cultural" familes. Why bthere needs to be theis undertone to this thread amazes me!
Our issue is being ripped off for our fuel, didn't the gvenment intoruduce some new law (or change in the existing law( afte rht efirst fuel protests to make it easier for the police to crack down, hence the second set f protests not getting very far?
The torubel with blockading refinerys is they are all miles away from me, and at these peices i can't afford the fuel to get there :doh
now about a 'lazy protest' if millions of people all just took a day off, a personal stirke, that would impact the economy and they would have to take notice. Jut one day everyone in the uk who doesn't agree with present policies just don't play the game for a day :thumbs
[QUOTE=PLANK;124898]i don't see what the raationship of the UK to Eire has to do with fuel prices, or the existance of "multi cultural" familes. Why bthere needs to be theis undertone to this thread amazes me!
well this government want to save money, but they found £7 billion for ireland, when we are supposed to be skint,
mult cultural families, well how many shouldn't be here for a start, they claim for all sort of relatives and that does happen, so why dont the government start sorting the fraudulant claims and save millions there, oh know put up petrol tax it's easier.:thumb2
I think the government IS cracking down on benefit abuse, to save money, so lets see how that goes.
as for fuel, I agree its outrageous, but I also understand that there is nothing anyone can do to get it lower, and thats not because we are all weak or cant be bothered, its because those in power DONT CARE. The fuel is going up full stop, its crap, and its going to hurt, and with luck it will be that hurt, that affects millions, that will get the government doing something about it.
what gets me is, we need oil to make fuel, but doesnt "England" own many off shore refineries? why cant we use our own oil?? why do we have to buy it in?
seems to me that this country has lost its self sufficiency, in the name of saving a few quid, except the savings arent passed on, like with fuel.
Deleted account DD
08-01-2011, 19:12
We are loaning Ireland £7billion at a higher interest rate than we are borrowing the same money at. Makes quite clever business sense to me.
Get your facts right or just carry on thinking sending a load of ************ home will get you paying less on your fuel.
Not sure about the terminology but the point made is absolutely bang :thumb2
Far too much emphasis is made waffling and whinging about the money thats syphoned of by immigrants on the fiddle. The simple fact however is that more brits are screwing the system than any other group :nenau
NO ONE should be allowed to screw the system, the whole lot are being clamped down on.
As far as the Ireland bail out goes, its laughingly good business sense. We use our crediting rating to raise money for Ireland because they cant, we then make on it and the profit goes to sorting our problems without costing us anything at all.
I just cant fault it :clap:clap:clap:clap
Back to fuel strikes............
The will may be there to protest but I doubt the ability to sustain is there any longer. :nenau
Deleted account DD
08-01-2011, 19:14
The torubel with blockading refinerys is they are all miles away from me, and at these peices i can't afford the fuel to get there :doh
or have enough derv in the tank to get home afterwards :lol:lol
rakerman
08-01-2011, 19:58
Wouldn't be so bad if an increase was gonna be spent on the roads and developing greener fuel or whatever.
I don't see why motorists and hauliers etc should be singled out to help reduce our national debt. Should the nation together not contribute with a smaller rise in income tax? Would seem fairer. Those on unemployment benefit should get a cut if they're not paying income tax,
Just seems to me this country's always "robbing Peter to pay Paul"
(RIP) PLANK
08-01-2011, 20:12
[QUOTE=PLANK;124898]i don't see what the raationship of the UK to Eire has to do with fuel prices, or the existance of "multi cultural" familes. Why bthere needs to be theis undertone to this thread amazes me!
well this government want to save money, but they found £7 billion for ireland, when we are supposed to be skint,
mult cultural families, well how many shouldn't be here for a start, they claim for all sort of relatives and that does happen, so why dont the government start sorting the fraudulant claims and save millions there, oh know put up petrol tax it's easier.:thumb2
the Eire question has been answere, sound finaicial sense, plus the uk being a ood neighbour and perhaps helping to put past problems behind both nations.
again, benefits and imigration (along with Eire) have no relationship to fuel! You have to pay the same price at the pumps whatever benefits you claim and whatever the colour of your skin. It's this kind of decisivmness that helps the government out, blaming everyone else, the divide and rule mentality that makes us loosers every time! The issue is fuel focus on that and maybe people could make a difference.
veg oil lol been covered on here before because theres no hope of getting them to drop fuel tax and then vat on that tax! and the people who created this mess are sat on back benches writing there memoirs and dreaming of after dinner speaches for city bankers!
as for sending immagrants home watch that border force on one the freeview channels they raid areest illegals working in takeways etc then bail them with condition they dont do it again and report back to be deported ....it dont take a genuis to work out they aint gonna (turkys voting for christmass lol) when they do deport em charter a plane then there was 52 custody officers pls all the coaches etc one guy been paying tax for last ten yrs so how they not know he was here!
countrys a joke but at least were not french !
(RIP) PLANK
08-01-2011, 20:30
verg oil, home made bio fuels, why did they drope the tax?
more ways to divide the oposition!
and we all love having some one else to blame, 'it's them bloomin foreigners!'
a nation of Alf Garnet clones :augie
The best way forward is to concentrate on one issue at a time, and the inability to do that is why we keep getting shafted :doh
Deleted account DD
08-01-2011, 20:53
verg oil, home made bio fuels, why did they drope the tax?
more ways to divide the oposition!
and we all love having some one else to blame, 'it's them bloomin foreigners!'
a nation of Alf Garnet clones :augie
The best way forward is to concentrate on one issue at a time, and the inability to do that is why we keep getting shafted :doh
:thumb2:thumb2:thumb2:clap:clap:clap
leave the eu should save few billions trouble is no one in the eu knows where the money is ,send all foreinors to afghanistan as mine detection specialists bung few students who think it funny to piss on monuments drunk/high on mater an paters allowence and best of all evict betty an phil the greek job done countrys back in the black ! simpleeze
extreme-4x4
08-01-2011, 22:06
and that is the very reason fuel protests dont wont and never will work.
everyone has an issue with fuel prices (even daved), and everyone would be happy to protest. (if its not too much hassle)
BUT
within the space of 2 pages of posts the problem goes from fuel to immigrants to the Irish the banks and back again
to protest about something you have to find out what single item you are ALL protesting about... and stick to it
christ if you just took this thread as an example of a protest, it would be shut down easily . given an hour or two protesting chained to some gate . the coppers would have the lot of you on some enticement to racial hatred charge .... on a fuel demonstration ... ffs
and thats why its not going to happen . even if everyone was united take the miners strike for example .... nothing to stop the gov planting some paid help to get it kicking off .... and again shut down .
happens every time watch the bloody news
extreme-4x4
08-01-2011, 22:18
and another thing the more the people go on about race or culture. the more the country is divided. by blaming everyone else on the cost of fuel or the state of the country. you are shutting out probably 1/3rd of the people who have a voice . if they are not with you that counts as a not on side in politics
united we stand divided you fall.
Deleted account DD
08-01-2011, 22:19
and that is the very reason fuel protests dont wont and never will work.
everyone has an issue with fuel prices (even daved), and everyone would be happy to protest. (if its not too much hassle)
BUT
within the space of 2 pages of posts the problem goes from fuel to immigrants to the Irish the banks and back again
to protest about something you have to find out what single item you are ALL protesting about... and stick to it
christ if you just took this thread as an example of a protest, it would be shut down easily . given an hour or two protesting chained to some gate . the coppers would have the lot of you on some enticement to racial hatred charge .... on a fuel demonstration ... ffs
and thats why its not going to happen . even if everyone was united take the miners strike for example .... nothing to stop the gov planting some paid help to get it kicking off .... and again shut down .
happens every time watch the bloody news
well said that man :bow:clap:clap:clap
I have a big problem with the massive proportion of the cost of a litre that the government creams off for no reason other than they can. Crude oil isnt actually that expensive, until its passes through the taxation system.
The missus and i are getting severely hammered in all these reforms, fuel costs being part of it all. Problem is like quite a few on this site, we're not poor enough to claim anything but not earning enough (like mps for example) to not give a toss and weather it.
I didnt vote for labour, i commented many times as a layman on their financially corrupt principals so I object strongly to paying for their cock ups.
Did you kow for example that pre the 1977 world wide slump ,that Milliband conveniently blames everything on, the government was getting more in from taxation than at any other time in pour recent history. However they were still spending more than was coming in and borrowing too :eek: oh yes and selling off gold stocks when the price was low :doh If that isnt gross incompetence I dont know what is .
Bunch of ****ers.
Now standing down off the soap box :augie
Peasgood
08-01-2011, 22:31
Not sure about the terminology but the point made is absolutely bang :thumb2
I apologise for my terminology and for allowing myself to get wound up.
labour messed it all up if id have been cammeron id have said no boys you carry on you made mess YOU sort it end of labour lol
i cant believe we pay fuel duty (tax) then vat on price plus the duty then road tax and tax on every bloody thing you buy for your truck government aint got a clue where all immagrants are but it sure knows where your truck is when your road tax is due!
11redrex
08-01-2011, 22:41
veg oil lol been covered on here before because theres no hope of getting them to drop fuel tax and then vat on that tax! and the people who created this mess are sat on back benches writing there memoirs and dreaming of after dinner speaches for city bankers!
as for sending immagrants home watch that border force on one the freeview channels they raid areest illegals working in takeways etc then bail them with condition they dont do it again and report back to be deported ....it dont take a genuis to work out they aint gonna (turkys voting for christmass lol) when they do deport em charter a plane then there was 52 custody officers pls all the coaches etc one guy been paying tax for last ten yrs so how they not know he was here!
countrys a joke but at least were not french !
classic :lol:lol:lol:clap
drive slower lads, you'll use less fuel.
now heres a theory if i was to order in say 500gallon of red diesel declare i intend to use it as road fuel pay taxs on it so its no cheaper than white could i run on it legaly and apart from milage on mot whos gonna now that ive used my 500 gallon and am now on my 2000gallon of rebated fuel that i havent told em about my speedo dont work and id be paying cash for delivery to different locations because they have to tell hmrc on bulk orders.
reds about 75p litre
extreme-4x4
08-01-2011, 22:55
I apologise for my terminology and for allowing myself to get wound up.
easily done, even easier in a real protest .
thats the trouble.... years ago look at the football in the 80's the coppers never had a chance to police them ... but with cctv they can easily take out the big names and make an example.... now trouble free football .
its the same with all modern day protests , too many laws on the fringe of the issue not directly removing your right to protest. cos that goes back to the magna carter or somit, but behind the scenes or just around the corner there is a law that everyone can fall foul of . thatcher done all that. the council tax riots was a world shocker. they wont ever let that happen again
this immigration thing plays right into the governments hands muti cultural society ... dividing the people is the reality ... and plenty play the game of intolerance and its those that are loosing there voice and right to protest .
dont get me wrong i like some on here with there own views on things, A LOT . im just explaining how it works my view ... and i have researched this a lot . im my youth i knew lots of very dangerous people most from the national front (not that i share there views now or ever) and knowing them and understanding how all that works on the streets , gives you a good picture of how sick and divided our GREAT BRITAIN is . its so heavily policed and pretty much lost to the gov.
unless someone can lead the people - mind you history dont paint a pretty picture of the ones that have, does it .
extreme-4x4
08-01-2011, 22:57
now heres a theory if i was to order in say 500gallon of red diesel declare i intend to use it as road fuel pay taxs on it so its no cheaper than white could i run on it legaly and apart from milage on mot whos gonna now that ive used my 500 gallon and am now on my 2000gallon of rebated fuel that i havent told em about my speedo dont work and id be paying cash for delivery to different locations because they have to tell hmrc on bulk orders.
reds about 75p litre
worth a shot give em a ring !
i get all twitchy round the tax man for some strange reason!
Deleted account DD
08-01-2011, 23:13
I apologise for my terminology and for allowing myself to get wound up.
dont worry at all :D the point was absolutely spot on.
11redrex
08-01-2011, 23:15
got to be delivered to a confirmed usage address and be accounted for, they'd be up your arse before you could say "what's that hanging out of my arse".
Read the 1st few & can't be arsed to read through :doh :augie :lol
I'll just throw my 1p's worth in & retire from this thread :augie :lol
I'm with Tezzer & being a lorry driver i hope they block everything up BIG time.!
It's not the fuel companys but the poxy goverment . . .
If any of you are happy paying the prices we do for fuel then your either filthy rich or bloody stupid.!
Bring back the days when fuel was a USA style 35p a litre :rolleyes:
(RIP) PLANK
08-01-2011, 23:18
Get your facts right or just carry on thinking sending a load of ragheads home will get you paying less on your fuel.
i see your point too mate, though as you are following the thread you will already know :thumb2
i get all twitchy round the tax man for some strange reason!
:jesterbg:jesterbgMe wonders why..
(RIP) PLANK
08-01-2011, 23:22
Read the 1st few & can't be arsed to read through :doh :augie :lol
I'll just throw my 1p's worth in & retire from this thread :augie :lol
I'm with Tezzer & being a lorry driver i hope they block everything up BIG time.!
It's not the fuel companys but the poxy goverment . . .
If any of you are happy paying the prices we do for fuel then your either filthy rich or bloody stupid.!
Bring back the days when fuel was a USA style 35p a litre :rolleyes:
No mate sounds like yout with me, I hope we get big scale protests too, i am right behind them. And yes it's the governments fault, not the fault of anyone on benefits, or any immigrants etc. etc.
So bring on the protests! lets stick to the point and get the fuel prices to a reasonable level.
the only reason i mentioned benefits and immigrants, is that it cost millions of pounds, if the government was to get stuck in and clobber the money suckers and poncers, that would help top up the coffers, instead off hitting the motorist, again and again. :thumb2
he doesent like me keeps asking me for money even threatens me, im sure its illegal to demand money with menaces or sommat like that!
oh ffs i just realised "planks" ON TOPIC whats the worlld comming to!
the only reason i mentioned benefits and immigrants, is that it cost millions of pounds, if the government was to get stuck in and clobber the money suckers and poncers, that would help top up the coffers, instead off hitting the motorist, again and again. :thumb2
:clap :bow :thumbs
I respect China for shut doors i wish we was like that :bow
BUT :rolleyes:
DON'T :nono condone how they treat there own :nono, animals :( & weapons threat :eek: :(
extreme-4x4
09-01-2011, 01:42
:clap :bow :thumbs
I respect China for shut doors i wish we was like that :bow
BUT :rolleyes:
DON'T :nono condone how they treat there own :nono, animals :( & weapons threat :eek: :(
bit like Nazi Germany in fact i think if you research it the nazi's had a better human rights record than china when it comes to its own citizens .
the trouble is end of the day , we are in this immigration overflow. people are not happy. but really the laws on any kind of protest or even a challenge to current laws . is not one any politician is going to make or jo public is in a position to make . the slightest murmur and your a nazi or racist
the papers all moan about the gov. but they only print what is allowed by the gov. you only see the regional news they dont show you what horrors are going on in other parts of the country
its all sewn up chums you only see what they want you to see , read what is good for them . and we all pay our taxes amd tow the line
its the same for civilizations throughout history. right down to the romans , the egyptions, even in our own dark ages history. the witch hunts that hit europe ... its control
and they have it
lacroupade
09-01-2011, 01:45
bit like Nazi Germany in fact i think if you research it the nazi's had a better human rights record than china when it comes to its own citizens .
the trouble is end of the day , we are in this immigration overflow. people are not happy. but really the laws on any kind of protest or even a challenge to current laws . is not one any politician is going to make or jo public is in a position to make . the slightest murmur and your a nazi or racist
the papers all moan about the gov. but they only print what is allowed by the gov. you only see the regional news they dont show you what horrors are going on in other parts of the country
its all sewn up chums you only see what they want you to see , read what is good for them . and we all pay our taxes amd tow the line
its the same for civilizations throughout history. right down to the romans , the egyptions, even in our own dark ages history. the witch hunts that hit europe ... its control
and they have it
are you on the sauce mate???:lol:lol:lol:lol
i think he is on something, :doh:augie
oh yes, i am a racist, bmp rocks.
slimlfc68
09-01-2011, 02:31
sod the blockade lets have a revolution we will only get poorer so we need to make a stand now not just lay down and die , up the revolution :clap
Thomas-the-Terrano2
09-01-2011, 09:40
i think he is on something, :doh:augie
oh yes, i am a racist, bmp rocks.
b m p?
harlowmaverick
09-01-2011, 09:56
VIVA LE REVOLUTION!
now where did i put my hat?
i think he is on something, :doh:augie
oh yes, i am a racist, bmp rocks.
b m p?
He means B.N.P.!
British National Party
As far as i'm aware :nenau they only have 1 seat & that's in Dagenham, Essex.! :confused:
Deleted account DD
09-01-2011, 11:27
b m p?
:jesterbg
Theyre not even sure who they are themselves or what theyre called, what chance would they have as an administration.
In fact I would have thought any doubts that they were credible were completely wiped out by Griffins appalling performance in that now infamous question time :lol:lol:lol:lol
He even makes Milliband look personable and articulate and as the only thing he can say is "it wasnt our fault" thats quite some achievement :lol:lol:lol
cammerons on news channel dodging the questions like a good un but the fuel hikes down to price of crude! nothing to do with the vat then oh and hell endever to stop the april fuel duty (tax) but the state of ecomny may not let him!
politicians you gota admire there capability to bullshit and get people to believe em!
jims-terrano
09-01-2011, 14:03
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12144966
Now I'm trying to think of a name for him, sounds like a big metal thing hanging from front of a ship:lol
Not sure how success the French farmers and fishermen seem to have but they certainly know how to protest.:clap
Jim
didnt think anker had a "w" in it lol
(RIP) PLANK
09-01-2011, 18:31
it's obvious to me that racists don't know how to protest or complain, everyhtuing is down to race, so instead of protesting to bring furl prices down we 'round up the immigrants' brilliant idea :thumbs
lets get all the other countries to send all out migrants back here too shall we and then see what a mess we would all be in.
I noticed todya the fuel at our locl texaco garage is very exspensive, turns out the bloke that runs it comes from Srilanka! the blokes a bloody foreigner no wonder his fuel has gone up :doh
what a load of bloody nonsense.
Now then back to fuel protests, a good idea! and if we could stop the racists (and the Bitmap fans) veering off course long enough, we might be able to organise one.
Bring back a successful Guy Folks :eek: :augie :lol :naughty
guy fawkes was the only person to enter parliament with honest intentions :augie:lol:lol:lol
guy fawkes was the only person to enter parliament with honest intentions :augie:lol:lol:lol
At last we agree :lol :thumbs :clap
Who was it who said "Politicians never lie................................. except when they open their mouths" ???
I don't know but they're pretty much right. I struggle to think of one honest politician, our local mp frank field doesn't want to raise his head against the parapet any more than he has to..........
Roll on fuel protests, I'll be out there, fuel permitting..... of course.
we could bring this country to its knees if we so decided, but how to keep it peaceful? and of course, lawful?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-12144966
Now I'm trying to think of a name for him, sounds like a big metal thing hanging from front of a ship:lol
Not sure how success the French farmers and fishermen seem to have but they certainly know how to protest.:clap
Jim
two points to raise,
1/ we should tie those lying toerag politicians like no vat raise cameron to a big anchor and threaten to loose it with 50' of 4" chain unless he lowers duty,
2/ we don't have any bloody ships with a uk flag these days to do it with tho, and our fishing fleet is decimated....... thanks to the foreigners.....
not only is this country being shafted by the CONserviatives and those wet and useless liberals, but its already been raped by the EU........
we couldn't protest like the french, we don't have the resources, we need another set of tools......
did u see that ebay add for fleet of nimrods paul put it on face book guy even ofered me an aircraft carrier he said no one wanted anymore was gonna throw some harrier things in aswell!
did u see that ebay add for fleet of nimrods paul put it on face book guy even ofered me an aircraft carrier he said no one wanted anymore was gonna throw some harrier things in aswell!
You didn't buy them then.. You tight git.. :jesterbg
Absolutely right R1co.The motorst is an easy and available target.A fuel protest is an excellent idea but it must be properly co ordinated.I think the last one did the job very well and it should be done again.Problem is everyone is so busy just trying to put food on the table they have to think twice before they go out and spend weeks doing nothing except wave placards.All in favour say "Aye":thumb2
extreme-4x4
09-01-2011, 23:39
aye
wont happen .... thatcher removed your right to protest. with the council tax riots.....
deal with it :confused:
lol
you seem to have changed your mind for some reason colin, why
Karinofnine
09-01-2011, 23:58
A protest sounds like a good idea. Maybe Facebook is the place to seed the idea? It could be as simple as driving to the speed limit all the time, and switching one's engine off at traffic lights, back on again when the lights change. Nothing illegal about that, in fact it's absolutely good for the environment, and saves fuel.
(RIP) PLANK
10-01-2011, 00:01
A protest sounds like a good idea. Maybe Facebook is the place to seed the idea? It could be as simple as driving to the speed limit all the time, and switching one's engine off at traffic lights, back on again when the lights change. Nothing illegal about that, in fact it's absolutely good for the environment, and saves fuel.
i like your ideas, did you see my post about a 'lazy protest' basically just do noting for a day and stay at home, if millions did it think of the impact on the economy. Maybe my idea is a bit ambitious but, no gatherings of people mean no police action, and no violence and conflict. I'm with Ghandi, passive resistance, it's the only form of protest that has ever really worked:thumb2
Karinofnine
10-01-2011, 00:06
Plank, yes, I did see what you said. It's a very good idea. Passive resistance, no crime committed. I think the key is in the numbers, if enough people engage in civil disobedience then the authorities can't really do anything about it, but you have to get lots of people and that is difficult in this post-Thatcher "I'm alright Jack" world where most folk are only concerned about their next DFS sofa half price interest free and no payments for the first year :(
(RIP) PLANK
10-01-2011, 00:08
Plank, yes, I did see what you said. It's a very good idea. Passive resistance, no crime committed. I think the key is in the numbers, if enough people engage in civil disobedience then the authorities can't really do anything about it, but you have to get lots of people and that is difficult in this post-Thatcher "I'm alright Jack" world where most folk are only concerned about their next DFS sofa half price interest free and no payments for the first year :(
i agree 100% and, everyine has their own little gripe, sometime we need to put it all aside and cincentrate on just one thing at a time :thumb2
extreme-4x4
10-01-2011, 00:12
you seem to have changed your mind for some reason colin, why
im all for protests. but like i say a protest only works in this day and age if its focused and legal. and you dont give the bad guys a way in ... cos they will find one without people giving them one .
im probably your most protesting type on here . i'll stand my ground with anyone just had some of the cheif cuntstable tonight.
oh i'll protest about anything and often win, because im focused on the problem . not always, sometimes i loose it. and i fall back on friends to get me focused again
Karinofnine
10-01-2011, 00:12
I'm thinking of ideas for FB, but I MUST go to bed now.
(RIP) PLANK
10-01-2011, 00:13
I'm thinking of ideas for FB, but I MUST go to bed now.
good night :)
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