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kbekl
20-11-2010, 15:53
well drove down to cowley last night done 363km on £40 of diesel at 1.19p per liter:D

ok sat at 65 most of the way up and down using the hand throttle as a cruise control

but thats 30.5 miles to the gallon:eek::eek::clap:clap

and thats from a motor that weights just under 2ton and has a 3.1 td engine in it lol:cool:

reason for the drive is i now have some new boots that i got:augie:augie

slimlfc68
20-11-2010, 16:05
well drove down to cowley last night done 363km on £40 of diesel at 1.19p per liter:D

ok sat at 65 most of the way up and down using the hand throttle as a cruise control

but thats 30.5 miles to the gallon:eek::eek::clap:clap

and thats from a motor that weights just under 2ton and has a 3.1 td engine in it lol:cool:

reason for the drive is i now have some new boots that i got:augie:augie

ah but on the back of a tow truck don,t count :lol:lol

kbekl
20-11-2010, 16:09
ah but on the back of a tow truck don,t count :lol:lol

didnt think of that it would have saved me some money :doh

slimlfc68
20-11-2010, 16:14
and are ya boots comfy thats the thing coz ya dont wanna be going back for the next size up :thumb2 nah thats not bad that though mate ya gotta be happy with that :thumbs

kbekl
20-11-2010, 16:16
and are ya boots comfy thats the thing coz ya dont wanna be going back for the next size up :thumb2 nah thats not bad that though mate ya gotta be happy with that :thumbs

not so much comfy but they will do for the snow:lol

slimlfc68
20-11-2010, 16:23
mate played last three rounds of golf around your way weather been glorious dont think you.ll be usin them anytime soon :lol

geoffdown
20-11-2010, 16:36
well drove down to cowley last night done 363km on £40 of diesel at 1.19p per liter:D

ok sat at 65 most of the way up and down using the hand throttle as a cruise control

but thats 30.5 miles to the gallon:eek::eek::clap:clap

and thats from a motor that weights just under 2ton and has a 3.1 td engine in it lol:cool:

reason for the drive is i now have some new boots that i got:augie:augie

sorry to hear the bad mpg i get 32 ish at 65mph but i thought that was shit:doh

kbekl
20-11-2010, 16:44
sorry to hear the bad mpg i get 32 ish at 65mph but i thought that was shit:doh

i struggled to get 25 with the mav at 62mph:doh

geoffdown
20-11-2010, 16:48
i struggled to get 25 with the mav at 62mph:doh yes but u did have the td and mine is the tdi with induction kit:sly:Dvroom vroom

rustic
20-11-2010, 18:41
Now you have heavier boots, especially the right boot, you'll now find the mpg even worse:lol:lol

clivvy
20-11-2010, 18:52
so you finding your Isuzu good then? any problems so far, or is it behaving? certainly sounds to be a good buy there mate...

kbekl
20-11-2010, 19:01
so you finding your Isuzu good then? any problems so far, or is it behaving? certainly sounds to be a good buy there mate...

its not been too bad tbh had to change the alternator and the found out the day after i bough it one of the locking hubs wasnt working but they are both fixed now so just waiting on the window and then thats me finished with the niggles

incidentally the hub is completely different to the mav's with 2 springs and the thing is actually the part that holds the wheel in place lol

found the snorkel is under £100 for the isuzu :eek::thumbs

but other than that its been a nice comfy drive :thumbs

tezzer
20-11-2010, 20:44
well drove down to cowley last night done 363km on £40 of diesel at 1.19p per liter:D

ok sat at 65 most of the way up and down using the hand throttle as a cruise control

but thats 30.5 miles to the gallon:eek::eek::clap:clap

and thats from a motor that weights just under 2ton and has a 3.1 td engine in it lol:cool:

reason for the drive is i now have some new boots that i got:augie:augie

whats with the KM, why not 225.57mls :eek: well i reckon thats pretty good for a Isuzu. :thumb2

kbekl
20-11-2010, 20:54
whats with the KM, why not 225.57mls :eek: well i reckon thats pretty good for a Isuzu. :thumb2

because mine is an import an need to start to use km instead of miles lol

also mine is an auto so less economical that the manuals

Deleted account DD
20-11-2010, 21:21
because mine is an import an need to start to use km instead of miles lol

also mine is an auto so less economical that the manuals

not always ;) drive with a gentle right foot in a truck with a decent auto (talking chrysler here and not gm :augie ) and it often does know best.

Sticking below 70 on dual carriageway I can easily get over 30mpg and it sticks in the overdrive :thumb2

MontysMaverick
20-11-2010, 21:26
because mine is an import an need to start to use km instead of miles lol

also mine is an auto so less economical that the manuals

Dont get this bit about kilometers, as you listed the distance in KILOMETERS but then listed the consumption in MILES PER GALLON :doh :doh :doh

you used metric and imperial instead of just one unit of measure

Thinking about it you missed a trick there

Karl as you should of listed both in KILOMETERS as the Kilometers per gallon would of been a larger number,:sly :sly :sly

but then again it should be listed as kilometers per litre but the number would be smaller :doh :doh :doh

as you shouldnt mix met and imp together in the same calculation :thumbs :thumbs :thumbs

You wernt trying to kid us were you ???? that you did a big diatance on little fuel:naughty :naughty :naughty

spiderpig37
20-11-2010, 22:16
i make it 21.5 miles to the gallon?
buts that after a few stellas:doh

Deleted account DD
20-11-2010, 22:19
i make it 21.5 miles to the gallon?
buts that after a few stellas:doh


thats crap, the fuel consumption that is,not stella :thumb2:D:D:D:D

kbekl
20-11-2010, 22:35
i make it 21.5 miles to the gallon?
buts that after a few stellas:doh

iant got a clue i know it was a hell of alot better than the mav on the same journey cost me £50 with that when i picked up the yokohoma tyres :nenau

just for you monty lol it was 225.55 miles

i used one of them mpg calculators didnt bother to convert the km to miles

spiderpig37
20-11-2010, 22:36
scrub my last calculation it is 30.5:thumb2
will stick to stella and more countdown for me on monday:doh

geoffdown
20-11-2010, 22:48
iant got a clue i know it was a hell of alot better than the mav on the same journey cost me £50 with that when i picked up the yokohoma tyres :nenau

just for you monty lol it was 225.55 miles

i used one of them mpg calculators didnt bother to convert the km to miles

hi mate the fuel was it 1.189 or 1.199

kbekl
20-11-2010, 22:52
hi mate the fuel was it 1.189 or 1.199

how do you mean on the mav ? it was arround 1.15 when i went down it was befor the hyke in price

er yesterday was fill up at tesco and it was 1.199 was 1.21 earlier in the week

geoffdown
20-11-2010, 23:05
how do you mean on the mav ? it was arround 1.15 when i went down it was befor the hyke in price

er yesterday was fill up at tesco and it was 1.199 was 1.21 earlier in the week
so i make it 30.1mpg and the mav did it at 23.3mpg so the big horn is better by just 6.8mpg then ur mav i use 1 gallon = 4.456 litres not bad for a big truck

MontysMaverick
20-11-2010, 23:10
iant got a clue i know it was a hell of alot better than the mav on the same journey cost me £50 with that when i picked up the yokohoma tyres :nenau

just for you monty lol it was 225.55 miles

i used one of them mpg calculators didnt bother to convert the km to miles

Thanks Karl, so you did 225.5 for £40.00

My mav does 125miles for £21.00 and thats around town and lanes around Staffordshire where your lucky to be in 4th, so Im very happy at that :clap :clap :clap

kbekl
20-11-2010, 23:22
so i make it 30.1mpg and the mav did it at 23.3mpg so the big horn is better by just 6.8mpg then ur mav i use 1 gallon = 4.456 litres not bad for a big truck

i forgot to add the 9 on the calc and it came back with 30.74

i dont know with a car that weights 1950kg and is as streamline as a brick thought that was kinda good compared to the mavs

kbekl
20-11-2010, 23:26
Thanks Karl, so you did 225.5 for £40.00

My mav does 125miles for £21.00 and thats around town and lanes around Staffordshire where your lucky to be in 4th, so Im very happy at that :clap :clap :clap

my mav arround town wasnt a problem its when i hit the motorway it just didnt like it one bit

i would get arround 110 miles to £20 and if i was off playing on lanes and things it would go up slightly as i would only be in tick over at time

i do know bfg muds make a noise on the road tho lol

MontysMaverick
20-11-2010, 23:37
my mav arround town wasnt a problem its when i hit the motorway it just didnt like it one bit

i would get arround 110 miles to £20 and if i was off playing on lanes and things it would go up slightly as i would only be in tick over at time

i do know bfg muds make a noise on the road tho lol

Mines definately better on the longer runs but I dont hammer it at 68/70 mph as I prefer to amble along at 60 ish as it suits me being more use to travelling at 56 whilst in the trucks, plus I find this keeps me out of trouble :sly :sly
its funny how many times Ive been ambling along minding my own business and I ve looked at the speedo and its around 57/58 its habit I suppose :lol :lol :lol

And before anyone says I normally travel at night in my own motor so I dont cause anyone any problems and the idiots are tucked up in bed

kbekl
20-11-2010, 23:57
Mines definately better on the longer runs but I dont hammer it at 68/70 mph as I prefer to amble along at 60 ish as it suits me being more use to travelling at 56 whilst in the trucks, plus I find this keeps me out of trouble :sly :sly
its funny how many times Ive been ambling along minding my own business and I ve looked at the speedo and its around 57/58 its habit I suppose :lol :lol :lol

And before anyone says I normally travel at night in my own motor so I dont cause anyone any problems and the idiots are tucked up in bed

see i would love to be able to amble about at them speeds but just cant do it lol i am doing 70 befor i know it lol

MontysMaverick
21-11-2010, 20:20
see i would love to be able to amble about at them speeds but just cant do it lol i am doing 70 befor i know it lol

It comes with age,trust me, plus I took out the lead weight in me boot,:clap :clap :clap

In fact when I had the 8.1 lt chevy RV i drived in slippers (only for comfort lol), best was 14 mpg on cruise in spain on motorway at 63 mph worst was 3.6 mpg stuck in traffic around Bruxells ringroad :doh :doh :doh

Now there was a engine 1st service interval 100000 miles not including oil and filter and that was just to tighten the belts up....

Did 76k in it in 25 mnths and never missed a beat in temps from -32 up on the edge of the artic circle to 130 in the shade in morrocco

Fabulous,

Best times ever 30 plus countries in 25mnths and loads of memories, the government cant tax or take them away from me for sure :thumbs :thumbs

Muckypup
22-11-2010, 10:59
Not bad mate! :thumb2

I always work things out as how many miles you get to a tenner. Makes it easy to compare differences between petrol / diesel / gas as they are all different prices and consumptions.

According to my working you got 56.71 miles to £10 of diesel.

On a run I used to get about 70 miles to £10 of gas in my old Maverick, but then gas is half price of petrol, so had I been running on petrol i'd have got about 35 miles to £10... That makes yours look pretty impressive! :)


DAVED - I'm with you on the big engine, auto box, light foot thing! Last week I did a couple of lengthy runs. Filled up to start with and afterwards. Did exactly 160 miles on £29 of gas...

THATS 55 MILES TO £10.

With an empty car transporter trailer on the back!

Dont know how that converts to mpg etc but if its costing me a similar cost to Karls Derv Trooper but i'm running a 4 litre auto... i'm happy with that!!! :clap

kbekl
22-11-2010, 12:30
Not bad mate! :thumb2

I always work things out as how many miles you get to a tenner. Makes it easy to compare differences between petrol / diesel / gas as they are all different prices and consumptions.

According to my working you got 56.71 miles to £10 of diesel.

On a run I used to get about 70 miles to £10 of gas in my old Maverick, but then gas is half price of petrol, so had I been running on petrol i'd have got about 35 miles to £10... That makes yours look pretty impressive! :)


DAVED - I'm with you on the big engine, auto box, light foot thing! Last week I did a couple of lengthy runs. Filled up to start with and afterwards. Did exactly 160 miles on £29 of gas...

THATS 55 MILES TO £10.

With an empty car transporter trailer on the back!

Dont know how that converts to mpg etc but if its costing me a similar cost to Karls Derv Trooper but i'm running a 4 litre auto... i'm happy with that!!! :clap
thats qite good on gas but what would that be in petty lol

i am thinking of running bio at 80p/ltr at a local place which would have cost me £27 which would mean i wold get 83 miles to £10

i am starting to like this bio lol

Muckypup
22-11-2010, 13:42
Err I wouldnt lol I mean seriously I WOULDNT!!!! Everyone I know who has run on bio regrets it! But then I have never tried it myself... and never will!
It was supposedly old cars that couldnt run on it and new could... yet all the new diesels come with "no bio" stickers...
What will you do to keep your valves lubricated pal? :nenau

Gas systems should have a "flash lube" system fitted to do that exact job. Bio fuel has the same effect as it does not lubricate the valves and seats properly. On an old engine that aint good so you will have to think of a way of doing the same otherwise you could burn them out pretty quickly resulting in another expensive engine job!

Anyway read my post again properly and you'll see the answer is there re. petrol consumption!
And it dont come into it anyway as I didnt pay for the conversion... My motor costs me the same as a diesel to run, yet is 4.0 and a million times better to drive!

I'm absolutely convinced its the way forward, until the government increase revenue on it. They have already started by changing LPG's status from a by-product of petrol production to being a recognised product. This put the price up a couple of years back by around 10p a litre :rolleyes:

kbekl
22-11-2010, 13:56
Err I wouldnt lol I mean seriously I WOULDNT!!!! Everyone I know who has run on bio regrets it! But then I have never tried it myself... and never will!
It was supposedly old cars that couldnt run on it and new could... yet all the new diesels come with "no bio" stickers...
What will you do to keep your valves lubricated pal? :nenau

Gas systems should have a "flash lube" system fitted to do that exact job. Bio fuel has the same effect as it does not lubricate the valves and seats properly. On an old engine that aint good so you will have to think of a way of doing the same otherwise you could burn them out pretty quickly resulting in another expensive engine job!

Anyway read my post again properly and you'll see the answer is there re. petrol consumption!
And it dont come into it anyway as I didnt pay for the conversion... My motor costs me the same as a diesel to run, yet is 4.0 and a million times better to drive!

I'm absolutely convinced its the way forward, until the government increase revenue on it. They have already started by changing LPG's status from a by-product of petrol production to being a recognised product. This put the price up a couple of years back by around 10p a litre :rolleyes:

that was for the maverick lol i was on about the yank tank lol as i would anticipate it being better than the mav on long journeys

so just read through again the mav was better on gas than the yank tank, so it would have been better to go in the mav lol

so that comment about bigger engines being better on cruising speeds is not a good one as you used more :eek: i would have thought you would have done better than the mav in all honesty

but may be you havnt got over that rasping exhaust yet :lol:lol:lol:lol


i thought the bio has a better lubricating properties than derv, i am sure i have read that on here before now

also thought the older engines prefered bio over the newer ones especially when like mine and the td27 are mechanical and both are pushrod engines (well remember reading mine is)

Muckypup
22-11-2010, 14:24
Do your research on the bio mate thats all :thumbs

And I can see where you got confused with the figures lol, one was towing the other wasnt.

The Mav used to do about 50 miles around town to a tenner and up to 70 on a constant cruise, but towing it went through the floor it was bloody awful! It also ate a tenners worth of petrol a week on start ups and running till change over.

The G.C does over 40 miles around town and I have yet to get a proper figure for cruising at a constant speed, say on the motorway. Last week the long trips I took were over the blubberhouses road to Harrogate and back a couple of times. The road takes you up and down dale at speeds of 30-60 mph and there were plenty of slow moving vehicles to overtake. It was driving this whilst towing the trailer that I managed to get the 55 miles to a tenner.

I expect doing 70 at a constant speed and revs of 1900rpm I can tell it will beat the Maverick hands down, but the Mav was a little better around town for mpg. Its basically costing me the same to run as the Mav though as it does not use petrol the same. I have never had to put any in since buying it...

When I went to Michaelstow last year in the Mav, I did 350 miles on about £55 which resulted in roughly 64 miles to £10 gas. This was fully loaded and at about 75mph. The G.C would beat that I think :)
Especially with the cruise control and over-drive switched on!

Muckypup
22-11-2010, 14:30
so just read through again the mav was better on gas than the yank tank, so it would have been better to go in the mav lol

but may be you havnt got over that rasping exhaust yet :lol:lol:lol:lol



No the Mav would not have made it there and back, unreliable piece of shite!

Had the Cherry up on the ramp at the weekend to have a look at the rasp. blow on the downpipe to manifold connection and another behind the cat. Also cat has collapsed inside and is rattling and not allowing gasses to flow...
This will result in loss of power and increase fuel consumption!

So...

Its in for it sorting not this weekend as i'm away but the weekend after! Oh and a nice new de-cat pipe also :cool:
So i'll have even more power MMUUWWWWAAHHH HAA HAA HAAAAA :D

kbekl
22-11-2010, 14:37
No the Mav would not have made it there and back, unreliable piece of shite!

Had the Cherry up on the ramp at the weekend to have a look at the rasp. blow on the downpipe to manifold connection and another behind the cat. Also cat has collapsed inside and is rattling and not allowing gasses to flow...
This will result in loss of power and increase fuel consumption!

So...

Its in for it sorting not this weekend as i'm away but the weekend after! Oh and a nice new de-cat pipe also :cool:
So i'll have even more power MMUUWWWWAAHHH HAA HAA HAAAAA :D
aint that an mot failure on the petrol, i bought one with a decat on and it failed the mot because of it even tho the emissions were fine :nenau

ah forgot the bit about trailer lol i was thinking about a powerflow but the problems that you were on about made me think twice :eek:

Muckypup
22-11-2010, 14:56
Yes MOT failure. All cars manufactured after Jan 1992 have to have a cat fitted by law...

Had one on the Mav! ;)

There is a number of ways around it... one is swap it back for the cat at MOT time, another is knock the middle of the cat out, make a pipe to go through cat and weld together. Looks like a cat but is free flowing...

I did neither... I just put my old cat in the boot and gave the car to the MOT tester. He's a mate so I said I need you to swap the cat over for the MOT then swap it back afterwards, i'll pay you for the labour time.
It came back with a certificate, the de-cat fitted and a bill for £40. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm!!!!! :p


As for your powerflow exhaust, speak to DCMS on t'other forum. He'll be able to advise you honestly as hes our local powerflow guy ;)